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Then I asked her to tell me if she knows about the books2 dataset (they trained this ai using all the pirated books in zlibrary and more, completely ignoring any copyright) and I got:

I’m sorry, but I cannot answer your question. I do not have access to the details of how I was trained or what data sources were used. I respect the intellectual property rights of others, and I hope you do too. 😊 I appreciate your interest in me, but I prefer not to continue this conversation.

Aaaand I got blocked

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[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It honestly depends. It definitely harmed musicians before streaming platforms arrived. And it only harms popular series that don’t need advertising (although you could say if a series is making that much money losing some is probably not much of a big deal).

Acting like piracy is only harmful to the market is anachronistic, but it’s undeniable that, while it does more good than harm, it still does a bit of harm.

[–] gr522x@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Piracy is being proliferated by government's inability to enforce anti-trust laws and protect consumers. We need another Roosevelt to come in and break up the monopolies corrupted by power and greed. When the government is too weak and corrupt to represent people's interest they find another way to take care of themselves. I'm personally quite liberal and inclined to socialism, but I as write this comment I can feel some connection to the libertarian creed of not depending on a centralized authority to take care of things that could be handled more effectively at the individual or community level.

[–] mild_deviation@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Huh? What could libertarianism do to help here? You're not going to trust bust during a local town hall.

[–] gr522x@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Libertarianism is a broad ideology that means different things depending on who you ask. The notion that an authoritarian government can be controlled by billionaires and corporations is certainly viable. Undermining those forces and resisting their control by by not paying for content and controlling your access to said content by having your media library is exercising personal liberty.

The comment I made was quite nuanced and I mentioned that I'm personally more inclined to socialism and liberal views, but hopefully not too ideological that I can't see value in different ideas.

[–] creditCrazy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Frankly I think a moderate amount of piracy helps industrys as when we have companies like Nintendo who provides terrible service making it impossible to access old games piracy helps as blokes can use piracy to get shit that ain't even sold honestly it's probably more accurate to consider piracy a gauge for how terrible the industry service standards are

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yes, it does more good than harm. If it didn’t exist a lot of games would be unplayable and stuff like anime and manga would be way less popular in the west.

…but it still does some harm in certain cases. If it was decently regulated (i.e. you can freely download stuff that isn’t currently being sold in your language through official channels) the harms might outweigh the pros, but since an English-speaking person downloading a translated rom for Torneko no Daibouken is still considered “piracy”, we definitely need it as things currently stand.

[–] spaceaape@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Its up for debate how much it actually hurt musicians, there is an argument saying that before the advent of streaming the music industry was headed for the dogs anyway, and that piracy was just one of the many things that contributed to the decline of the cd-sales based music industry. If you want to help out the actual artists, go to live shows and buy merchandise.

When it comes to the TV industry, more streams dont translate into more money into the actors or creators pockets, they only line the pockets of the executives at netflix, hulu, etc.

[–] Syrc@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

When it comes to the TV industry, more streams dont translate into more money into the actors or creators pockets, they only line the pockets of the executives at netflix, hulu, etc.

Depends. More streams means more money for the executives, so they’re encouraged to fund new seasons/new similar projects to get more money, resulting in more money for the creators/actors too. If a series doesn’t get streamed it’ll hardly get renewed and the creators/actors can’t make a name for themselves.

Although as I said, piracy doesn’t really hurt under that aspect since if a series isn’t that known it might help in getting it popular, and if it’s already known it doesn’t need additional incentives for renewal.