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The planet's average temperature hit 17.23 degrees Celsius on Thursday, surpassing the 17.18C record set on Tuesday and equalled on Wednesday.

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[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Does Chinese inaction absolve all responsibility of the West?

[–] const_void@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Who’s engaging in whataboutism?

[–] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

...of course it doesn't? Like what kinda point is that?

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you're Chinese, there's very little you can do to stop that, as opposed to encouraging your country's politicians who have proven commitment to curb climate change.

So "China builds 5 coal plants every day before breakfast" is the whataboutism here.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

China produces a lot of stuff. The whole capitalist consumer drive force is world wide. Not sure what you expect to be able to do though.

[–] reversebananimals@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point is that this poster is a WuMao and will say anything to try and support the Chinese government. Sad that they have wormed their way in here already.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am not WuMao. I simply don’t appreciate useless finger pointing and implied righteousness to justify doing nothing just because some other country isn’t doing what they can either.

We’re all watching the world burn and this finger pointing is doing little else but assure a very painful future.

[–] Reliant1087@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But this user isn't diverting attention from an American policy or whatever. The original post was on how we have the hottest days so far and they rightly pointed out that a government was building lots of coal plants in that context. Others have chimed in and said that the government also is investigating in renewable, though I question if that makes building coal plants okay.

None of this is whataboutism. No one is above criticism or scrutiny.

[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I see is directing attention at China as a polluter and placing effectively sole blame on them.

I feel like my point stands and it’s a perfect example of strongly implied whataboutism.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago

What I see is directing attention at China as a polluter and placing effectively sole blame on them.

Sounds like a "you" problem then. No nation should be expanding coal burning.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, Australia is selling them all the coal.

[–] Knoll0114@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

National pride ✨

[–] Arbiter@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] NewNewAccount@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Same same same. It’s all their fault for manufacturing all of our shit and still having half of the CO2 emissions per capita compared to the US.