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There's no purpose. Do whatever you will do. There was never another option.
Hey, it could be worse. There's no failing per se and this is neutral (rather than hostile) towards whatever personal goal you make up.
Okay. Life has no purpose. And free will is an illusion. Are we just living out a simulation?
Maybe, does it matter? As a property of the universe it has neither predictive power nor falsifiability.
If it is, I think it's fair to say it's not a human-centric simulation. I suppose it could be life-centric or intelligence-centric (Fermi paradox explanation?), but it could just as easily be an investigation into conformal field theories, and the creators don't even realise there's an equivalent gravitational weak field system present yet.
I think it's also worth asking how you define "simulation". It's possible to have a system who's state can be read two different ways but in which it's not clear which of the two is more "real". The holographic theory I touched on there is a great example.
It probably matters to people who are looking for an external source of meaning, and doesn’t matter to people who are creating an internal source of meaning. In that way, it’s maybe a useful clue to what type of meaning is more valid.
In the scenario you gave, how would you judge whether a life was well lived? How would you go about living a good life? What would you do or become to be an effective human being?
You mean in the no-free-will purposeless-universe scenario? I think there's no right or wrong answer, really. Every human being (and animal, and plant, and rock) are simply what they are. You have to add somewhat arbitrary personal criteria to get a meaningful answer.
Personally, I think being kind and strong is very important. That's not very original, but I guess the interesting thing I have to say about it is that 99% of the population earnestly tries to do that, and the reason people suck is basically down to a version of Hanlon's razor. To be an effective human being, don't lie to yourself.
We all lie to ourselves. But I admire people who try to lie to themselves less, who try to be honest with themselves and face reality.
The purpose of life is to procreate to ensure your species survival
If only life were that interesting. Sadly, we’re just insignificant specs of stardust living meaningless, pointless lives for a finite amount of years and then disappear from existence.