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The kind that thinks communism is the same as nazism and thinks communism is when the government does things.

I hate liberal brain worms.

They seriously do as much damage to the left as fascists by punching to the left and spreading capitalist anti-left propaganda. They overall weaken leftism and help fascism.

We need more left unity, folks. Fash ain't gonna bash themselves. left-unity-4

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[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago (16 children)

i'm no ML but anarchists should read the jakarta method.

anarchists should be able to see that cuba, china, vietnam, laos, and north korea are far preferable to american hegemony despite all their flaws, and that contextually an anarchist uprising in cuba would immediately cause the island to fall to imperialists. You don't have to like states to understand that you kinda need one when the dominant mode of geopolitics is relations between states.

i'm here for anarchism when the bigger threat of capitalism is gone or if anarchists can get something going in the imperial core but i don't see any examples of successful movement building comparable to the BPP.

[–] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (15 children)

You don’t have to like states to understand that you kinda need one when the dominant mode of geopolitics is relations between states.

You are asking me to accept that a state is necessary - i.e you are asking me to stop being an anarchist. Once again, the only one that has to compromise in this "left unity" is me, and the compromise is so big I have to completely stop being myself. On your end though, there is nothing. This is exactly what I'm pointing out. You're just saying it in nicer words.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (5 children)

stop being myself

your political ideology is just a consumer identity. you are not a real anarchist.

[–] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

If an anarchist is entirely willing to drop the anti-statism why should they even call themselves anarchist? This isn't some obscure niche issue, this is literally the entire core of the philosophy. Would you call a marxist entirely willing to drop the call for a DotP or materialism a marxist?

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

In my experience, those who claim to be both anti-tankie and anti-statist tend to really fucking hate AES states but not mind the US or the west that much. They don't apply their anti-statism equally.

[–] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

"Both 'anti-tankie' and anti-statist" is redundant. You cannot be anti-statist and not "anti-tankie", because "anti-tankie" is opposing socialist states. Anarchists only criticise socialist states more often when they're talking with people who defend and excuse them, which is why you see the assymetry. In a regular anarchist community of mostly anarchists, both online and especially in real life orgs, it's actually quite the opposite.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

anti-statism

The fact you have no self-awareness of how ridiculous this makes you sound, again reveals you have no idea what anarchism entails or what the class conception of the state is, you don't know the history, you can't define the terms, and you can't even articulate a remotely accurate description of marxism

Lets me guess, your definition of "state" is when "govment does stuff" isn't it? lmao you're not an anarchist, you're a confused liberal who likes to larp as a radical

[–] mimichuu_@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you truly believe anarchism is not against the state, I genuinely have no idea what to tell you. I seriously hope this is a conscious attempt at gaslighting and you're not THAT confidently incorrect.

In the remote case you are actually interested in anarchism, I'll leave something here for you.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/petr-kropotkin-the-state-its-historic-role

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/mikhail-bakunin-what-is-authority

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/anark-the-state-is-counter-revolutionary

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-an-anarchist-programme

You should, if you intend to keep thinking yourself an authority on anarchism to actual anarchists while also keeping any sense of integrity, at the very least, read this one, it's only 50 pages.

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-anarchy

ing me. I will leave with this:

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