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[โ€“] dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (3 children)
[โ€“] Crabhands@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

Read this 2 years ago. Not the ending I was expecting but good book. Not a hard read.

They just look at it for their daily two minutes of hate haha

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You can really tell that people who reference that thing have never read it. Honestly if you have a legitimate criticism of Western society to draw from a dystopian novel there's probably better choices. The totalitarianism in 1984 is in no way subtle or hidden from anyone, that's a big part of the point of it.

Of course, to reference something relevant you have to have read things other than rage clickbait.

[โ€“] MrFunnyMoustache@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it didn't need to be subtle for it to be realistic. You can see in certain communities just how unsubtle their hatred and stupidity is.

[โ€“] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago

Yeah, exactly. Orwell was trying to paint a picture of how willingly people would accept gross oppression. You can see him talk about it in some of his letters IIRC.

In the West way more than just your TV watches you, but it's done in a very invisible way and for now you won't even hear back unless you join ISIS or something. Cynical forces manipulate the political process, but it's out in the open except for being just boring and complicated enough to avoid too much publicity. None of this is very overtly oppressive.