25
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
this post was submitted on 09 Oct 2023
25 points (96.3% liked)
3D Printing
4296 readers
2 users here now
For everyhting 3D printing related.
Please be excellent to each other :)
Icon by Freepik, Banner photo by Thiago Medeiros Araujo
founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
It depends on how you define quality.
And of course as already mentioned injection molding is a much better fit for mass production.
And on the commercial side you have SLS. It can make parts that are accurate like SLA but made out of nylon so they are also really strong - that's for example how most parts by bondtech are made.
Not quite in the consumer pricepoint yet, but maybe in a few years.
I agree with all your points, except the last one. Admittedly, it is still rare, but there are companies out there that, using industrial machines, manage to get close to or (in case of the linked one) exceed injection moulding in tensile strength, and are achieving near isotropy using FDM processes. https://orion-am.com/blog/orion-am-news-1/3d-printing-peek-stronger-than-injection-molding-12
Disclaimer: I work there. However, this article has independent test data that has been verified by 3 different labs by now.
I guess there's always something new to learn. But while it's tested with PEEK (and other high performance thermosplastics) I am curios if it works with more customer-grade materials like PET(G), ASA, PLA or PS, since those have a far lower melting range compared to PEEK. Also most users are probably not willing to pay the price of PEEK or other high performance materials. Nevertheless its a really interesting method i wasn't aware of yet, maybe it will become the new standard for industrial FDM in a few years. Thanks for sharing!
There's no data on those, but we did at some point print air tight (0.8 bar over a week iirc, no vapour smoothing) in abs, so it may be similar. Consumer grade hardware of this sort is probably still pretty far away, but it's not as impossible as many believe :)a
This is very good information.
To add another point, a few other differences: -Additive manufacturing (3d printing) can produce some shapes which are not possible using injection molding -Injection molding currently has access to a wider variety of materials due to its maturity (pelletized raw material)
Agree. I was just thinking about this last night. The model I'm currently making would have to be multiple sub-components without 3D printing. Having everything as one piece, but still with a lot of air gaps, makes the finished product stronger.
There are pellet extruders, but generally agree that there's a wider material selection available for injection molding.
I'm not in the space, but what's your opinion of acetone vapor treatments to get a bit higher polish for fdm?
I haven't tried it myself yet but from the results I've seen online it seems like a good way to decrease roughness. But you still you have to print with a low layer height since larger layers result in deeper crevices which can't be mitigated by the vapor. And its nothing I would try without proper safety measures. Of course you can also sand and polish your surfaces by hand but especially larger surfaces get really tedious really quick :D
I finally have a pretty well tuned ASA and ABS capable printer and am excited to give vapor smoothing a shot. That said, I am very curious how repeatable it will be in terms of part tolerance. Most of my parts are functional. Nicer surfaces would be cool, but not if it results in some variability in tolerance.