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Hamas threatens execution of Israeli captives if Gaza attacks continue
(www.aljazeera.com)
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It’s almost like most Arab countries don’t give a shit about Palastine
They give a shit about not being attacked by a country that's got the nuclear bomb and the backing of most of the western world.
Point here, it wasn't Lebanon, it was Hezbollah. Hezbollah is tolerated within Lebanon because of a weak Lebanese central government, but they're still a militia within Lebanon, not Lebanon itself. They more or less represent the Iranian-aligned portion of Lebanese Shiite Muslims, not Lebanese Christians or Sunni Muslims.
Lebanon is a failed/failing state with a weak centralized government that can't exercise total control over the nation, but it's also a super diverse country. Just saying, it's a minority of the population which supports Hezbollah, it's just not a minority which can be suppressed since they receive extensive military support from Iran and Syria. If they tried, it'd be the Lebanese Civil War again
Usually what Israel does is counter artillery action and maybe some airstrikes. They haven't actually invaded in a while. I expect that's what's going to happen this time around too, they're likely mostly focused on Gaza.
I think the pain is coming for Gaza, especially if they follow through and start executing hostages.
This was true in WW2 also but there clearly were fewer bad guys on the other side.
You're comparing shit covered apples to shit covered oranges. You might be right about the differences, but at the end of the day both are covered in shit.
FYI, Blinken just had a conference stating there is no hard, tangible evidence that Iran was involved. That may have been Hamas trying to stir up some more shit.
From what I can gather, there are no good guys between Israel and Palestine because they were set up to fight each other. The UK saw that the Jewish people were desperate following the Holocaust and told them that they can have land that was occupied by other groups with a strong religious identity. The Palestinians were like "WTF? We live here and are Muslim." Now, the two groups are fighting each other for survival while being supported and encouraged by external powers for their own political gain. This whole thing is fucked up since the victims are both Israel and Palestine.
Excellent comment. Thank you.
I tried to figure out who was really to blame for all this yesterday, and I stopped at the Russian revolution without an answer.
Nationalism and the desire for a Jewish state came from the pogroms of Jews in Russia -- paraphrased, a Jewish scholar believed they would only have freedom and be respected if they had their own country.
Britain decades later wanted influence in an area that they had none in, and they wanted to grow a Jewish population to create that influence. Zionists happily accepted.
And from then on we've had the Arab/Palestine/Israeli enmity.
Everyone has been a victim. Everyone has been an aggressor. I suspect that if I were to follow the source of the Russian pogroms, I'd ultimately end up with the Romans in Israel.
The seeds of the conflict stretch back further. Essentially, the UK promised both Arabs and Jews a state in Palestine in exchange for fighting the Ottoman Empire in World War I.
As part of the aftermath of that conflict, Great Britain was assigned a League of Nations mandate to administer Palestine starting in 1923. It wasn't exactly always peaceful and essentially the UK decided to nope out after WW2. Basically as soon as it was announced they were leaving there was a Civil War which spiraled into the Arab-Israeli War of 1948 literally the day the mandate ended and Israel declared independence. But yes the whole thing is fucked.
Neither Egypt nor Jordan want to deal with the kind of extremism rife within places like Gaza, and I can't blame them
Idk if the translation is just wrong, but they're using the word "regret" weirdly here. Almost seems like a slip of the tongue, betraying their actual regret to have done something so stupid and easily condemnable to such a degree that the international community has a very easy time holding back and not applying much leverage at all in trying to hold Israel back from absolutely obliterating them.
But frankly, I think they're too zealous to actually regret it at all. They'll probably live out the rest of their shortened lives in ignorant blissful fervor.