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Is it wrong how I’m repeatedly relating Jews to discussions on Palestine? (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 year ago by AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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Some of you have likely noticed that I have a tendency to relate a Palestinian situation directly to Jews somehow, and I’ll be honest, I feel kind of weird doing it because proportionately speaking the Palestinian gentiles are suffering more than the Jewish citizens. I guess that it would be like repeatedly talking about Italians (e.g. Antonio Gramsci) while the Fascists were atrociously assaulting Africans.

Should I feel guilty? I don’t know… maybe I shouldn’t feel guilty. I mean, since a lot of Zionists like to focus on Jews when discussing Palestine and whatnot, maybe it’s important to have somebody doing that albeit from the opposite end of the spectrum, if that makes sense. I certainly don’t want to overshadow discussions on Palestinians, nor am I going to pretend that the suffering that they and Jews face is somehow equal, but given how many like to justify or overlook Zionist atrocities by centering the subject on Jews, maybe it’s important to have a kind of counterbalance to that.

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[–] edenbenzaken@lemmy.org.il 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I feel comfortable saying it here although I haven't said it to anyone I know: The Israeli/Hebrew propaganda right now tries SO HARD to compare Hamas with Nazis, capitalizing on "Murdered JewsTM", that I really did not fall off the chair when seeing the "gas the Jews" video from Sydney.

If you can distinguish Zionists from Jews, that'd be cool, but I'll give you the Jew Pass for not doing so, because that connection is our fault exclusively.

Antisemitism is such a beautiful excuse for what's happening right now. They're not wrong, it exists and we truly are a persecuted people, but we're also war criminals. Israeli history textbooks are written in a way that emphasizes the former while completely (completely) sleeps on the latter. The narrative is clean and makes so much sense: persecuted Jews coming from the holocaust just wanted to return to their homes but they were persecuted there too 🥺 (which is wrong, early settlers weren't part of the holocaust, they came way beforehand. and the post-holocaust Jews only started migrating two years after the Nakba)

I'm so disappointed by my leftist friends here who seem so shocked of the Hamas attacks but cannot take right now the reality that these same pictures are circling from Gaza for years. They seem to think that not murdering babies with bare hands but rather with nukes makes us somehow morally superior. Why can't they understand the power imbalance? And why can't they remember that almost every other occupied people resisted in such gruesome, inhumane ways? Would my friends with Algerian ancestry talk that way about their grandparents, knowing some of their people also beheaded children and committed rape during the war? Is it really they're "human animals", or... maybe you just lose some of your humanity after that many years of occupation?

You know what, you don't even have to go as far as Algeria, the Nakba itself included raping of Palestinians, but it isn't widely known here :/

Feel free to ask anything btw, but please try to show some empathy, I'm well aware that I'm on the colonizing side and there's no need to remind me of that, and no I don't think leaving is the best I can do right now. Thanks I'm just a bit agitated rn

[–] edenbenzaken@lemmy.org.il 4 points 1 year ago

Huh I just opened Twitter and saw the first based tweet in Hebrew I've seen in the last few days claiming what I claimed in the 4th paragraph, and it gathered a considerable amount of likes. It's happening?

https://twitter.com/freyisrael1/status/1711636106708394433

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