this post was submitted on 11 Oct 2023
302 points (78.1% liked)

World News

39004 readers
2697 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News !news@lemmy.world

Politics !politics@lemmy.world

World Politics !globalpolitics@lemmy.world


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

They exchanged text messages and emojis. Brief status updates with words of encouragement. A picture of the beloved family dog "Tutsi."

Until no more messages came.

And then, Cindy Flash, an American, and her Israeli husband Igal vanished into the violence, presumed kidnapped by Hamas.

Four days after Hamas attacked Israel, more than 100 Israelis and potentially dozens of foreign nationals are thought to be held captive in the Gaza Strip. At least 14 U.S. citizens have been killed and an unknown number are still unaccounted for.

Flash, 67, originally from St. Paul, Minnesota, is one of them. She lives in Kfar Aza, a kibbutz in southern Israel near Gaza, where some of the most harrowing and grisly stories have been emerging during the last few days.

"They are breaking down the safe room door," Flash said in one of her final messages to her daughter Keren, 34. "We need someone to come by the house right now." She had been communicating with her parents from a few houses away.

Keren described her mother, who worked as an administrator in a local college, as someone who had the "sweetest biggest heart," who everyone knew and loved, and who had spent a lifetime advocating for the rights of Palestinians, including those who live in Gaza where she may now be held.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] MxM111@kbin.social 15 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Hamas was elected in 2006. The destruction of Israel was clear on its agenda. They are representing people of Gaza.

[–] P1r4nha@feddit.de 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The problem with that argument is that the Israelis have also voted for the fascist, corrupt leader Netanyahu who needed to change the law to not land in prison and completely failed to protect Israel or to deescalate the situation in any way. You wouldn't want to justify the killing of Israeli civilians either, so you shouldn't try and do that with Palestinian ones.

[–] steltek@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A lot of people are trying to justify the killing of Israeli civilians however.

If there's going to be an "open air prison", we should make one for the far right nationalists of every country so the rest of the world can live in peace.

[–] P1r4nha@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, unfortunately that's nothing new... in fact it seems older than all of us and some of our cultures and languages. I think the only moral high ground you can get to in this conflict is to completely reject any notion of killing or hurting civilians.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago
[–] jack55555@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I voted for a way different party in 2006 than I do now. Opinions change.

[–] MxM111@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Do you honestly think if free elections were held today in Gaza, (or week ago, does not matter) then Hamas would not be re-elected?

[–] RaineV1@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Things can change a lot in nearly 20 years.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 year ago

That was a looong time ago. And it was also during the middle of a conflict involving the entire region, Gaza, West Bank and Lebanon. Israel was ruthless and went on a murderous rampage against all these countries.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one -3 points 1 year ago

You understand that was 20 years ago right?

Half their current adult population werent even capable of voting 20 years ago.