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[–] Toldry@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm one of the Israelis who frequently attended the anti-government protest.

I expect you not to support the Israeli government, but to support the Israeli people's right to defend ourselves from terrorists.

Regardless of whether Israel has a right wing or left wing government, we will not allow thousands of us to be massacred.

We won't stand by and twiddling our thumbs waiting for the next Hamas attack to kill more of us without responding with our full force.

None of this contradicts the fight to end the occupation. You can be anti-Hamas and anti-occupation at the same time.

Nuance is possible!

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Then how about your government stop killing and abusing Palestinians. It's almost as if decades of apartheid oppression, murder, and human rights abuses have consequences

[–] Prunebutt@feddit.de 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They specifically stated that they where attending anti-governmsnt protests. 🙄

[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Awh that's great! They've attended anti government protests. I guess we can ignore the call for a heavy handed ruthless response in retaliation in that same comment or the implicit support of their government's ongoing role in the bombing and murder of civilians. Also, nowhere did I see them specifically decrying their government over the Gaza response, only in response to "corruption"

[–] RupeThereItIs@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I would say isreal has a right to defend itself, but not if they keep stealing land and oppressing the people who attack them.

If you want to defend yourself, first, you have to stop attacking the people who you claim to be defending against.

Hamnas is human garbage, but one can not separate the creation of Israel from the ghettoizing of the Palestinian people.

Nobody deserves terrorist attacks, but this didn't come out of the blue.

Isreal needs to own up to it's complicity in the violence before they try to claim to be the sole victims of it.