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Comcast resists call to stop its misleading “10G Network” claims | Comcast renamed its whole network "Xfinity 10G" despite cable's slower speeds.::Comcast renamed its whole network "Xfinity 10G" despite cable's slower speeds.

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is the best summary I could come up with:


An advertising industry group urged Comcast to stop its "10G" ads or modify them to state that 10G is an "aspirational" technology rather than something the company actually provides on its cable network today.

Comcast isn't alone in its use of the 10G term, which was unveiled in January 2019 by cable industry trade group NCTA-The Internet & Television Association.

Further, NAD determined that the evidence in the record was insufficient to support the broad, unqualified message that the "Xfinity 10G Network" is vastly superior to 5G.

But a Gigabit Pro fiber connection is not available to all homes in Comcast's cable territory, and it costs $299.95 a month plus a $19.95 modem lease fee.

Comcast started offering cable upload speeds as high as 200Mbps late last year, but only if you bought the $25 per-month "xFi Complete" add-on that included a gateway rental.

Comcast notified customers a few months ago that it was removing the xFi Complete requirement for higher uploads as long as you have a compatible Xfinity gateway or third-party modem.


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[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

300 a month?! What a massive fucking ripoff.

[–] FUCKRedditMods@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Every single provider just sets completely arbitrary price-gouged rates. We need a public internet service to undercut these goons.

[–] takeda@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Actually there's even a simpler solution (although your idea doesn't conflict with it and both could be implemented).

What is needed to bring competition back is a law requiring that the last mile (the wire that is between your home and nearest PoP (Point of Presence) can be leased to competition (at reasonable price of course).

This is the primary reason why is it so hard to enter existing market. This is also the reason why we had so much competition in early 2000 with DSL (a phone line was used to which such law applies)

[–] antizero99@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A growing number of towns and cities have done exactly this. It's partially responsible for pushing att and others to expand their true fiber networks. I'm in NC and we currently have by my count 5 companies offering ftth with 3 of them actively burying fiber and conduit all over town.

[–] tony@lemmy.hoyle.me.uk 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And $500 installation and $500 'activation' (just call it $1000 installation FFS).

And a 'modem fee'.

They'll probably add a few more fees on top for the hell of it if you query that..

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Processing fee, I'm sure. It costs you more money for them to take your money.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Paperless billing fee. Online portal fee. Mobile app portal fee.

[–] theterrasque@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago

Fee'ing fee. You thought all these fees were free?

Meanwhile, here in London, 25GBP, ~30USD per month for symmetric 1Gbps, including router - https://communityfibre.co.uk/

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If you say so... that's a pretty big tube.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The internet is not a big truck; it's a series of tubes!

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's fiber. Literally a strand of glass.

[–] sramder@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Wait... are you saying it's not a series of tubes?

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not really; in my market, $300 to Cox gets you a cable line with like a third of a gig down (theoretical) and like 20 megs up, business class. Compared to that absolute shit, it's amazing. If you don't get biz, you get a 1TB (or 750GB?) cap that you can lift for extra money but they can still decide that someone, anyone, in your area or neighborhood is using too much bandwidth, even if they pay the extra for unlimited, and throttle everyone.

[–] SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz 2 points 1 year ago

https://help.orcon.net.nz/hc/article_attachments/18766789266585

Several ISPs in NZ will sell you 10G fibre (advertised as 8G) for that, if you're in urban areas with 100G handover links - otherwise, they'll only sell 4G plans due to the risk of congestion.

I believe 1000/500 is now the most common plan as the cost is barely more than the 300/100 plans

Write to the FCC asking them to unbundle the retail divisions of your ISPs from the wholesale and physical plant divisions. And regulate the fuck out of the pricing and services offered by the monopolistic wholesalers.

[–] SuperJetShoes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Brit here, Leeds centre. ISP is "City Fibre". Fibre-to-property. 512Mbps. £27/month.

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

£27 Illinois here, haven't see rates like that since DSL/dialup days. https://www.google.com/search?q=%C2%A327 had cable internet abou 10 years. kept rising from about $30 to $50+ recently they came down our street with fiber so finally ditched xfinity for fiber for $55/month 250mb/s up/down, no caps