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[–] random65837@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They've been torn down physically multiple times by techs and verified that the mute button is a physical disconnect, that said, that could very well be model specific, change later on, or possible even undone with software updates. They shouldn't be trusted either way as Amazon has proven to lie about not recording whole conversations other than trigger words, but as a whole, so far seems that the mute button is legit. People have also WireSharked them and watch data transmissions from them while muted, and after prolonged mutes to see if theirs a data spike. I haven't seen anything damning...yet.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No software update could bypass such a hardware feature, which is exactly why it was designed thusly.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because a button is tested to cut power/connection to a mic, doesnt mean it did it directly.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Huh? It was built that way, and it does it. It's a hardware feature.

[–] random65837@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Physical "hardware switch" gets thrown around a lot, but it means nothing other than that, a physical switch that can be manipulated. Just because a physical switch can mute / disconnect the mic, that's not synonymous with a physical disconnect. No different than the old phones with physical home buttons that you could repurpose when you rooted. They were a physical button, but that button didn't do it's function directly. Whther that's the case with the echo, I have no idea. But given Amazons track record, It wouldn't surprise me if it's just a physical soft switch.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your reading comprehension is terrible.

I am not just talking about the pushbutton.

I am stating that the mic power is literally disconnected in mute mode. The indicator LED physically cannot light up unless the power is cut. This is all implemented directly in hardware. This has been torn down by hardware enthusiasts and verified for many, if not all, Echo devices. I've also personally reviewed the schematics of multiple Echo devices.

A hardware circuit like that cannot be modified by any software, because there is no software involved in it.