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Right? Firefox has been excellent for some time now, and Google has actively betrayed user's trust for at least as long. It's easy to switch and Firefox almost always has equivalent plugins and other solutions. There's very little reason not to switch.
Mobile ad blocking without any root/jailbreak/proxy/dns was all I needed to finally push me over the edge.
No not edge, firefox!
This is not a chrome vs firefox issue. People using an adblocker on firefox are getting blocked just the same.
See:
source (sorry for the reddit link)
Most often this happens because the user runs some other addon/blocker that interferes with ublock (or gets detected). It's important to test with only ublock active and see if the problem persists, and if not, to slowly enable more and more to see what is causing the issues.
For me there was about a day where google was winning against ublock even if I was onoy using Ublock. Now though Ublock is back to winning, and I only occasionally have to refresh my cache
Yup, for me it was enhancer for Youtube's ad blocker that was interfering. Didn't see the popup since turning it off.
I freshly installed win10 Firefox+uBlock and got this message after a while (was around 2weeks ago) first I could x the message, then the message had a timer, then 1-3 vids until block and then blocked.
That was at my parents house, now I’m back in my home with different pc win11 (same fresh FireFox+uBlock) and now I don’t get these messages anymore.
That probably was the "not up-to-date filter lists" problem, or the rare "filter lists themselves not updated yet", but they are within a few hours usually.
I’m not on YouTube’s side. But, ultimately Youtube has the advantage here. You guys are talking about technical solutions to get YouTube to continue sending you videos. But, YouTube has the nuclear option in their back pocket. Enshitification, YouTube is one of the only platforms that still works well on the internet without an app or logging in. If they want to badly enough they’ll stop allowing people to use YouTube signed out and ban accounts that watch with Adblock enabled.
We need to work on building platforms that work outside of Google. I think the hardest question is how would that work with monetization for new/smaller creators.
Odysee is the alternative, the plus, you can download almost every content, but the downside that are uploaded almost every content, no censored. Based on blockchain, that means that it works for the eternity and none of the content can be deleted, which also has + and -, because of a lot o cuestionable content, well, in YT is the same problem.
https://www.zdnet.com/finance/blockchain/blockchain-based-odysee-keeps-your-social-media-content-online/
Only had ublock active, still happens. For now it still goes away on refresh or if I switch adblockers (so I'm assuming cleaning out the cache daily will work too).
I use Firefox and also got that pop-up. Eventually I just grew tired of clicking the "X" button so I went on uBlock origin and added that stupid banner and the banner background to the blacklist.
It's like nothing ever happened. And if shit continues to get worse, either someone comes up with a fix somehow, or I'll just find a way to run ReVanced YouTube apk on my pc or something. I don't care if I have to emulate it somehow.
Also, on mobile GrayJay is a good alternative to ReVanced. Made by LouisRossmann's team apparently.
I haven't seen it yet either, not on firefox nor on chrome. From what I hear it's being rolled out gradually, so if you didn't get a notice yet, it doesn't mean that you won't get one in the future.
Youtube have been increasing their anti-adblock efforts dramatically in the last few weeks, changing the scripts multiple times a day. The ublock origin team is very quick in updating the filters though. They have a post on their subreddit with some details.
You have no idea? You know exactly why people download/buy the most popular thing at any time and you also know most people don't change anything unless it's broken.
"Broken" is a variable scale which heavily depends on the users in this instance
I swear half the users here are running NixOS these days (with the other half on Arch). Redditors like Linux, but Lemmings take it to an whole new level.
Even that might be going a bit short. In the long run it's probably better to switch to piped, freetuhe, invidous, etc.
I’ve never (almost?) used chrome as main for the past 15+ years
but he’ll, the last years updates are more and more unstable. Tab and browser crashes are to be expected multiple times per week (ok browser crash maybe once per week)
Also I actually miss WebUSB, WebBluetooth (I work with embedded as a hobby and it’s very convenient) and background blur (nobody wants to allow camera blur in ff, especially linux)
For me Firefox haven't crashed once in a year or more, even though I'm a heavy user: using it every day for multiple hours as a "tab hoarder", with quite a few addons.
I also rarely restart it, as I don't turn off my computer completely, so the Firefox process is usually as old as the time of last system reboot.
I think you may have ran into a rare bug, that has got persisted in your browser profile.
You may create a new browser profile (e.g. on the about:profiles page) and set your things up there, and most likely it'll be stable.
I think there's also a "refresh Firefox" button somewhere where average people would look for it, but I don't know where it is. But be aware that this will delete everything in Firefox, where's if you create a new profile, the new profile will start with a clean slate and you can switch back and forth between the old one if you find out you need something from there (e.g. old passwords that you haven't transferred, a specific about:config setting if you use those, addon settings, ...), or even have them open at the same time.
there’s a very high chance that something’s off with my profile but deleting my profile is not worth it (yet?)
Losing my history isn’t something I take lightly - at all
Tell you the truth I’m just “harvesting” anger to fix the fucking bug and fix it “properly”. I hope
About the other points.
I see your point, personally I prefer WebUsb, WebBluetooth and such to be completely missing, so it's much less likely that a bug allows access to these to a site.
Bluring camera background seems to me very specific to webcams, and even if chromium based browsers will do it for you, I think you are better off with running OBS and it's virtual webcam functionality, as it has been made for that purpose (video processing), and it can do much more if you want (including cropping, ways to improve video quality, or even do greenboxing). Introducing background bluring to the browser would mean more requests to add this or that effect (even if it should actually be the task of the web app), and I think it's hard to maintain even a single such effect (that does not blur everything, but only certain parts of the image) if your devs don't have extensive experience in video processing. This would be a feature that if introduced, either would break once and stay that way for quite some time, or would take significant development resources to find the problem and keep it working.
I knooooooow, my feeling for WebUSB/whatever are completely love/hate. I come from a security background (and hobby) but the alternative to WebUSB is horrible and implementation specific - you need to download the binary, install the correct version of the X programmer and make it kiss your debugger. It’s bad.
Also I just don’t wanna open chrom* - I do but I’d like to tell a huge fuck off
About camera blur: What I wanted to point out is the lack of some “exotic” features that firefox lacks. the blur implementation is not in chrome but in each web app - means there’s the required api to do that
But it’s niche, I don’t care that much. there’s also a py project on gh that does exactly that: blur your background and expose a fake cam. It’s not “production ready” but it’s ok
also if you are on Windows the new duck duck Go browser takes care of all this automatically