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A community for everything related to Palestine and the occupation currently underway by the occupying force known as Israel.

Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.

Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.

We always take the sides of Palestine and Palestinians and are unapologetic about it. Israel is an occupying power whose "defence force"'s (note the contradiction) sole purpose for existing is to push Palestinians out so they can resettle their rightful land. If you have anything positive to say about Israel we do not care.

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I have a question for all of you. It is possible the defense of the Israel State and the defense of a anti zionisms?

For me is impossible defense Israel and beeing and anti zionism at the same time. Too many organization in Spain defend the exists of the 2 states.

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[–] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I agree with you, because Israel is a settler-colonialist fascist genocidal apartheid state, and does not have the right to exist. It is indefensible. I don't think you can have a "non zionist" Israel, if that happened then it would be a totally different state.

[–] Laguna700@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Off course. Israel exist to the protection of the jewish people and I can not imagine a secular Israel state not based on ethnic terms.

Israel does not exist to protect Jewish people, and that Zionist claim only contorts Judaism. Anti-Zionist Jews in Israel are regularly harassed and beat by IDF forces, and life doesn't really fare better by African Jews in Israel. There a number of politicians in Israel that actively incite Anti-African Jew Pogroms, and there are also reports of forced sterilization of African Jews.

Israel exists because the Nakba happened, there is no way around that. Tens of thousands of Palestinians were killed and hundreds of thousands more were expelled in the Nakba, and everything since 1948 is simply a continuation of that. Whether Israel identifies as a secular/ "Jewish" state is irrelevant at the end of the day. It's a settler colony on stolen land.

The West would have us believe that a Free Palestine entails killing every last Jew, but it doesn't. Jews, Arabs and Christians have lived in the region for long periods of peace, and the only obstacle to that is Zionism. There should be a one democratic Palestine, and Israelis who want to be productive members of it should stay once Palestine is liberated, but the ardent Zionists should leave. No different than South African Apartheid at it's core.