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Hello World!

We've made some changes today, and we'd like to announce that our Code of Conduct is no longer in effect. We now have a new Terms of Service, in effect starting from today(October 19, 2023).

The "LAST REVISION DATE:" on the page also signifies when the page was last edited, and it is updated automatically. Details of specific edits may be viewed by following the "Page History" reference at the bottom of the page. All significant edits will also be announced to our users.

The new Terms of Service can be found at https://legal.lemmy.world/


In this post our community mods and users may express their questions, concerns, requests and issues regarding the Terms of Service, and content moderation in Lemmy.World. We hope to discuss and inform constructively and in good faith.

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[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (5 children)

I want young people being able to express themselves equally and without fear.

[–] clueless_stoner@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Remember Lemmy does not only have safe content and communities, and this includes our federated network. If you think kids should be able to view some of those, then you are free to disagree. We are happily following obligations.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world -3 points 1 year ago

An instance doesn't have to follow, or show, the content from all the instances it's federated with. If you chose to do so, that's your choice, there is likely another "kids friendly" Lemmy federation split on the horizon.

[–] Eccitaze@yiffit.net 14 points 1 year ago

And the admins (and myself, for that matter) want to exist without the risk of doing a perp walk because Little Timmy saw a peen.

I'm on an NSFW Lemmy instance. I have multiple NSFW accounts spread over the various platforms, and my single biggest fear is that some shithead kid is going to ignore the giant "18+ only" warnings because they're so MATURE for their age, they're going to find adult content (or worse yet, try and message me and pretend they're over 18 so I don't block them), and one of their relatives find out and call the police. Intentionally done or not, I've seen exactly that scenario play out, ruining the lives of multiple people through no fault of their own.

The Lemmy admins all have to worry about this exact same thing too, except they have to worry about every kid and every NSFW account/community, unless they decide to either play whack-a-mole with the various NSFW instances, or move to default deny federation and only federate with known-SFW communities. And that's on top of the existing CSAM spam concerns that they appear to have only recently gotten under control.

I don't give a single solitary flying fuck about whether children can express themselves equally. They're NOT equal to an adult, because I don't risk jail time by showing off my [REDACTED] to them.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Let's take a look at what comments look like when you encourage kids to sign up

Broo πŸ’€πŸ’€

bro woke up and chose violence

And who could forget this classic

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Age limits are entirely self-selected. If you're dumb enough to out yourself as breaking them, you were probably not contributing to the community in the first place

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't necessarily. I remember when I was young, and hanging around on BBS'es and forums all the time. I was a little shit.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

I remember when I was young and the Internet was the only place I felt like I wasn't constantly being talked down to. It was the only emotionally safe space I had.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This sure as hell ain’t the place for them.

[–] Xariphon@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Said of essentially everywhere.

And then old people wonder why young people are so anxious and depressed these days...

[–] ogoflowgo@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

I don't wonder. I know. It's because they're on the internet instead of going.the.fuck.outside.
There is zero wrong with putting age limits in place.