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Democratic Rep. Rashida Tlaib refused to apologize Wednesday for saying on Tuesday that Israel is to blame for the hospital explosion that day in Gaza, an accusation that sparked political backlash against her from Republicans as Israel denies fault.

Tlaib joined thousands of protesters calling for a ceasefire in Gaza during a solidarity rally hosted by the left-leaning group Jewish Voice for Peace at the National Mall. She was visibly emotional, at times pausing her speech to openly weep and criticizing lawmakers who have not backed a ceasefire resolution.

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[–] danhakimi@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, I thought I was still replying to the OP of this thread. It probably was PIJ, but the only party that originally asserted it was Israel was Hamas, so people piggybacking off Hamas's story and running with it rather than looking at any of the evidence is a real problem.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think people are just fearing the worst of the Israeli retaliation, honestly its not outlandish to me for Israel to bomb a hospital so I can see why people jumped to conclusions.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So people are biased into thinking Israel would kill hundreds of civilians in one shot just because it wanted to, yourself included, and after seeing all the evidence point to the opposite, you're just saying "oh well, they're still just as evil as they clearly aren't?"

I bet you also assume, apropos of no evidence, that Israel did bomb the Rafah crossing, even though Israel keeps telling Palestinians to go evacuate south, and Egypt, Jordan, Hamas, and PIJ all keep telling them not to. The media moved on bare accusations from Arab parties, but can't cite any evidence or reason for the claim.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Damn I wonder why people would be biased against an apartheid state participating in ethnic cleansing aka genocide.

Also i never said anything about any of those specific incidents you are referring to.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn I wonder why people would be biased against an apartheid state participating in ethnic cleansing aka genocide.

I more wonder why people are so willing to believe that a border between nations is a form of apartheid, or that genocide is what it's called when populations skyrocket.

But you'd rather believe an organization that calls for global genocide in its founding charter, proactively forbids any kind of peace, and acts accordingly, huh? You'd rather believe them when they have no evidence? You'd rather believe them when they post videos of themselves massacring civilians and then go on TV the next day saying "we didn't target any civilians, that's just propaganda."

Also i never said anything about any of those specific incidents you are referring to.

this whole thread is about the hospital explosion.

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You keep putting words in my mouth, all ive ever said is that Israel is an apartheid state, and that Israel is commiting genocide. I never said shit about supporting hamas or whatever other bullshit you're saying. Israel is an apartheid state, apartheid is never justified, apartheid states reap what they sow.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

this thread is about the hospital explosion. I don't know how you got to the middle of this thread without realizing that people were talking about the hospital explosion, or why you felt the need to respond to an nth-level comment about the hospital explosion with criticisms that were not about the hospital explosion,but that's not me putting words in your mouth, that's you getting lost and assuming that the context wasn't relevant to the meanings of the things you said.

But I explicitly addressed the apartheid and genocide lies. Do you have some other kind of point you want to make? Perhaps on-topic this time?

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you do not think the situation in Israel is apartheid then you just don't know what you're talking about. Israel is undisputably an apartheid state. What color are israeli license plates and what color are the Palestinians license plates? Can they use the same roads? Israel is commiting genocide of the Palestinian people they keep them in an open air prison and lob bombs on them. You're not only an apartheid apologist but also a genocide apologist. I hope your proud of yourself and your views.

[–] danhakimi@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

What color are israeli license plates and what color are the Palestinians license plates?

What color are Delaware license plates and what color are Maryland license plates?

Can they use the same roads?

All Israelis can use the same roads, yes.

Really? Is that what you think Apartheid South Africa was? Laws enforcing a border with a neighboring nation, and cosmetic differences in shit like license plates for different nationalities? Look up what made Apartheid South Africa suck, and then try to find parallels in Israel. As a base matter, South Africa is one country. And as a reminder, nobody refers to South Korea as an apartheid state.