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[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

First thing, who the hell has the phone numbers of the wives and families of the holdouts? To me, targeting that precise indicates that the person behind the threats is a political insider at the very least, if not tied directly to Jim Jordan. I don't know why the reps receiving these threats aren't demanding an investigation about who's behind them. I damn well know I'd be looking for the head of anyone who threatened my kids on a pike, and to me these reps not willing to do the same for their own families is an act of cowardice.

But with that aside, this is all a very entertaining episode of "Leopards ate my face!". Tune in tomorrow for another exciting episode where Marjorie Taylor Greene refocuses her space lazer on Ohio, Matt Gaetz sees a picture of the middle school student who was threatened and gets excited, and Lauren Boebert whips out something completely unexpected.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Any licensed attorney can look this stuff up.

These people are Nazis. They want fascism and they will kill to get it. They will certainly run some people searches from some two-bit lawyer's office.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I very seriously doubt a licensed attorney is behind making multiple death threats to multiple representatives and their families. They'd be facing disbarment, hefty fines, and a significant amount of jail time. I mean it's certainly possible, just like anything else. But the chances would be highly unlikely. Plus, remember that we're talking about multiple targets. I very seriously doubt that a random lawyer would have the contact information of multiple government officials just laying around somewhere, and I have trouble believing even the most accomplished laywer would be able to put this together and coordinate everything in under a day. Given the time period we're talking about and who was targetted, I'm much more inclined to believe that whoever started this already had that information ready to go, and who is most likely to have the contact information of multiple GOP representatives and their families on speed dial? One of their colleagues. And given the support was 100% in favor of Jordan, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out which one of those colleagues it is.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I don't think responsible for making the threats, but maybe for finding the names and phone numbers.

[–] great_site_not@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't know why the reps receiving these threats aren't demanding an investigation about who's behind them.

Are they not?

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I have not heard of any indication that there's an investigation being launched.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It could be an insider, but it's also not hard to find that sort of information about a public figure.

[–] Nightwingdragon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The figures themselves? Yes. Their wives and families though? I would think that would be a bit harder.

That, and this all happened over the course of, what, a day? An awful lot of people were specifically targetted and threatened in a very short period of time. We're talking hours here. Maybe a single day. I have a lot of trouble believing attacks that were this numerous and this targeted over such a short period of time was the work of internet randos.

If we were talking about a period of several weeks or even days, sure. But when that many people receive that many death threats over such a short period of time, that's not (to me) the work of random people. It's a coordinated attack from someone who had the information of multiple families already on hand.

[–] Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You’re naive or uninformed then.

In two minutes from my phone I found his phone number and personal email, two personal phone numbers for his wife, one is a landline, her personal email address along with the names and contact information for their kids. Their current and prior addresses. All of their ages, birthdays, aliases and neighbors. If someone was persistent and felt like spending an hour to put together profiles for them I have no doubt they could plant a very clear picture of everything they would want for whatever they are after. I was going to post links and screenshots but I don’t think that would be appropriate and as much as I don’t like him I don’t agree with the actions. You can accomplish a lot with OSINT profiling, be it people, organizations, whatever really. Nobody that has any idea what they are doing isn’t going to do recon ahead of time. Obviously using more secure methods than a simple fingerprinted google search but I was just doing it to verify I could and without any malicious intent I would need to cover my tracks for.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 1 points 1 year ago

No, it really is way easier than you think. A day is more than enough time, especially if it's done by a group of people connected on Discord or something, which it almost certainly was.

[–] TheSanSabaSongbird@lemdro.id 2 points 1 year ago

Getting that information is child's play. It's way easier than you appreciate.