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It's difficult to talk with an organization who's stated purpose is the murder and destruction of your country. Doubly so when they have a proven track record of 15 years of negotiating ceasefires only after they ran out of rockets to use against civilians.
Bottom line, Israel has stated the goal is to completely and permanently disarm Hamas and any other armed group in Gaza. Israelis will not accept any solution that leaves even a possibility for October 7th to repeat itself.
Even a humanitarian ceasefire will be unlikely until after the ground campaign starts.
Israel will accept nothing that might prevent the ethnic cleansing and the stealing of the land you mean. Were you forgetting that part?
No.
Please engage in a civil and open minded manner.
I did. It's not uncivil because you don't like it.
It's dishonest to pretend the other side shares your point of view, thus ignoring their point of view, as if it would not exist.
A bit ironic to do so in a subthread which is all about the two sides should talk to each other.
Maybe it only underlines how hard that is. We here have no stakes in that game and still cannot at least acknowledge other positions.
So we agree it was perfectly civil. Good.