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[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why not write the article into humanitarian pause proposal?

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Don’t know what you mean, I didn’t write the article.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The article refers to Article 51 of the UN charter, which I quoted. You don't seem to think it matters. To member nations of the UN it matters very much. Why wasn't article 51 included? Because it is a right denied by those that wrote theproposal.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I get what you’re saying now. And I think it wasn’t included because the resolution deals with humanitarian aid not _self defense _ . The fact that it wasn’t included is just an excuse for the US to vote no. Why didn’t the US introduce a new resolution with that language included? Because it gives them plausible deniability.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't work that way. You can't ask for a pause once Article 51 is invoked, and it was. It's not up to the US to write proper declarations for others. I don't see them denying anything, they in essence vetoed it.

[–] cfbundy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your crybully appeals to procedure are deeply unserious. The US have obviously vetoed a humanitarian measure intended to help over a million civilians.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I know that's what you want to promote, but that's not what the ambassador said.

[–] cfbundy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I'm "promoting" is the analysis provided by top humanitarian organisations:

'"Once again the U.S. cynically used their veto to prevent the U.N. Security Council from acting on Israel and Palestine at a time of unprecedented carnage," said Human Rights Watch'

What you are promoting is pure spin. You cannot possibly be so naive, so you must be deliberately obtuse.

[–] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 1 points 1 year ago

Rather than your spin, I actually read the article. Saw what was quoted, pointing out what it meant.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@TokenBoomer I agree with this. As well as being a bit off topic, quoting chapter and verse of the UN charter in every resolution would be redundant.

It's already in the charter.

It's not normally a requisite for resolutions and making it an excuse not to sign seems disingenuous to me.