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Chinese shipbuilding capacity over 200 times greater than US, Navy intelligence says (archive.ph)
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The slide's authenticity was confirmed by a Navy spokesperson, who cautioned that it was not meant to be an in-depth analysis.

The slide shows that Chinese shipyards have a capacity of about 23.2 million tons compared to less than 100,000 tons in the U.S., making Chinese shipbuilding capacity more than 232 times greater than that of the U.S.

The slide also shows the "battle force composition" of the countries' two navies side-by-side, which includes "combatant ships, submarines, mine warfare ships, major amphibious ships, and large combat support auxiliary ships." The ONI estimated that China had 355 such naval vessels in 2020 while the U.S. had 296. The disparity is expected to continue to grow every five years until 2035, when China will have an estimated 475 naval ships compared to 305-317 U.S. ships.

Another section of the slide provides an estimate on the percentage each country allocates to naval production in its shipyards, with China garnering roughly 70% of its shipbuilding revenue from naval production, compared to about 95% of American shipbuilding revenue.

Because of China's centrally planned economy, the country is able to control labor costs and provide subsidies to its shipbuilding infrastructure, allowing the Chinese to outbid most competitors around the world and dominate the commercial shipping industry, Sadler said.

Alternative title - "Central planning is more efficient than markets" confirms US Navy

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[–] JuryNullification@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

As a veteran of the US Navy, who attained some rank and stayed in far longer than I should have, I know enough to say: lol, sure

EDIT: to be a little less dismissive and memey, there is nothing in the US Navy’s inventory that can reliably kill a hypersonic ASM, and their best ASM is the fucking Harpoon, which is about forty years out of date.

The information that the Navy operates on about their own weapons systems, from the top to the bottom, comes from the manufacturers’ Developmental Testing, and is highly inaccurate about real world suitability and effectiveness. The Operational Testing data (real world testing, where you put a weapon system on a real ship at sea and shoot it) is largely ignored because most of the Navy doesn’t even know they do OT, or what OT even is. The metaphor I like to use is:

You’re shopping for a car. You see the MPG listed on the data sheet taped to the inside of the window, and that’s the DT data. The MPG you actually get is the OT data, and it’s always worse.