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The state of Gaza's hospitals: Surgeries without anesthesia and with only mobile phones for light. Vinegar from the corner store as disinfectant. 5,000 patients in a hospital built for 700, some sleeping on the floor. No power, no clean water, little fuel.

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[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Except the person you're responding to didn't mention 40 beheaded babies. They mentioned murdered babies. And yes, Hamas/Islamic Jihad did murder babies. There are pictures.

Snopes:

So, given that infants were indeed among victims killed in the violent attack, why does it matter if they died by beheadings or another way?

Let's be honest, you're probably too far down the rabbit hole given your callous comment. But for those reading, stay critical of any claims or counter claims, and be careful to avoid the pitfall of cognitive dissonance.

Condemning Hamas doesn't mean you can't support innocent Palestinian civilians who are suffering. Condemning Israel war crimes, doesn't mean you can't also condemn the murder of innocent Israelis. The situation isn't black and white.

[–] livus@kbin.social 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Can we at least all agree that the multiple babies being killed (whether by Hamas or the IDF) do not deserve to die?

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's thousands of dead children. Primarily in Gaza.

[–] livus@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ofc. Just weird to say "multiple" when it's thousands over decades.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

@Serdan I get you now. "Being killed" is the present tense (specifically, the present continuous). I'm talking about the current round of hostilities.

I use "multiple" because since it's still unfolding we don't yet have an estimate for how many are being killed.

[–] Serdan@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, we have estimates. Don't look them up, unless you want to ruin your day.

[–] livus@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

@Serdan ugh, I can imagine. This whole thing is so horrible. I hate how human rights abuses unfold and there's nothing I can do except raise awareness, pester my representatives (in my small, non-influential country) and donate to MSF.

ngl your comment inspired me to take a second look at the babies shit, apparently there was a whole thing of if the burnt baby picture was fake or not and i honestly can't make heads or tails out of it. ty for the snopes article.

Let's be honest, you're probably too far down the rabbit hole given your callous comment. But for those reading, stay critical of any claims or counter claims, and be careful to avoid the pitfall of cognitive dissonance. Condemning Hamas doesn't mean you can't support innocent Palestinian civilians who are suffering. Condemning Israel war crimes, doesn't mean you can't also condemn the murder of innocent Israelis. The situation isn't black and white.

i'm sorry if i came off dense, thickheaded, or rash; i understand that the situation isn't black or white. just a lot of people are trying to justify a free pass to genocide 2.1 million people and it's frustrating to see.