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I'm not doing a whataboutism, I'm just saying that when a state big enough wants to exert it's influence all over the world, it's hard to curb that.
Uh, yes it fucking iswhataboutism because this thread is about Russian political intervention against democracy worldwide whereas the US would subvert governments to prop up democracies that would benefit them
Big difference
(Btw you used “it’s” which is “it is”, not “it’s” as in indicating ownership)
This is simply MORE whataboutism, again we’re talking about Russian disinformation campaigns eroding public trust in democratic institutions and you’re over here telling people that it’s hard to change a big countries mind???
Come on bud, you can do better than this
The United States subverts governments to prop up whatever would net the people in charge the most money in the long run and it usually ends up being a dictator.
It's not whataboutism when you compared the accused and the one accusing. It's farcical and hypocritical to see the US pointing the finger when it has done worse and is still actively doing it.
The article itself is “whataboutism.” The article fails to address the fact that America interferes in foreign elections. Article— what about Russia?
“That would benefit them”
Haiti has entered the chat.
Name a country in central and South America that the United States has not installed a dictator lol
The Cold War called and wants its foreign policy back!
The US hasn't been actively involved in subverting Latin American democracies for nearly 40 years.
You will say that's nothing to be proud of, which is true, but if we can't give credit where it's due, there's no incentive to change.
Iraq, Afghanistan, maiden coup, Palestine, Philippines, Syria, Libya and probably more that I don't know off the top of my head.
Weird you had to specify Latin American democracies
Edit: saw someone linked about a US backed coup in Latin America in 2020 so the 40 years without meddling in Latin America isn't even true 🤣 https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/18/silence-us-backed-coup-evo-morales-bolivia-american-states
Lmao that opinion article you linked is not talking about the US, but about the international, heavily central-and-south American OAS.
"America" is a pair of continents, not just a country.
https://www.oas.org/en/about/who_we_are.asp
Also here is the actual US involvement, from the article
So an organisation the US is a member of, contributes to financially and has a large amount of influence in has blocked the democratic election of a Latin American leader. Allowed the installment of a temporary leader that they like. The current US president at the time vocally backing the organisation mentioned above and regurgitating the misinformation pushed by that organisation.
The only involvement you saw was a couple of congress members calling for the US to investigate and calling for the US to promise not do what they have always done, starting now.
Did you even read the article?
Also nice of you to ignore the first half of my original comment.
Your comment wasn't very good so I didn't feel the need to address it.
Lol. The same people are in charge
Yeah we didn't try to take over Bolivia in 2019. Not at all.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/18/silence-us-backed-coup-evo-morales-bolivia-american-states
Please don't ask Elon Musk either.
https://www.salon.com/2020/10/20/elon-musk-becomes-twitter-laughingstock-after-bolivian-socialist-movement-returns-to-power/