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[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

I mean, the argument from idiots will be that they're pleading guilty because the deep state will disappear them or some crazy bullshit.

Trying to use logic to argue with those people is like playing chess against a ~~pidgin~~pigeon. They'll knock over all the pieces, shit on the board, then strut around like they won.

[–] Hyperreality@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I find the socratic method sometimes works. You ask them questions and let them argue with themselves.

But as you say, arguing with pigeons will only result in shit in your hair.

[–] Uli@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Wow, pigeons really taking a beating in this conversation.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are basically rats with wings.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Since when have trump supporters had wings?

[–] trash@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Woopdie flippin ding, Winger

[–] willworkforicecream@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I thought that Trump drained the swamp so that they couldn't do stuff like this?

[–] Triyfer@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

So, I've never liked that phrase. What happens when you drain a swamp? You remove all the stagnant water and dead-zones. But what is left behind? He said he would drain the swamp, not remove the scum.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

He drained it so he could fill it with his own swamp.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This is what I really don't get, what did he do while in power for 4 years? Surely if he was voted there to drain the swamp and then didn't, it makes him in ineffectual leader, so why vote for him again? Get someone else in to drain the swamp and this time do it right.

[–] bitsplease@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah, we need to get over the fantasy that any facts that come out of these investigations will sway anyone about trump.

The fact is that anyone intelligent who supports him already knows he's a crook, and just doesn't care, because his policies benefit them (for now), and the rest will just swallow whatever blatant lie trump feeds them

[–] PapaStevesy@midwest.social 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're thinking of pigeons, not pidgins. They're surprisingly very different.

[–] EatYouWell@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Damn it, and I just listened to a review podcast where they were roasting people for misspelling it.

In my defense, my predictive text had it as an option instead of the right one.

[–] Skua@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago

A pidgin is a real thing, so your predictive text is right to have it. It's a word for a language that is created when two groups that speak different languages regularly interact with each other. They end up learning a sort of simplified hybrid of their two languages and that hybrid is a called a pidgin. Sometimes they become developed and established enough to be people's first language, at which point it's called a creole

[–] Gigan@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

They're pleading guilty for the same reason anyone does. The prosecutor guaranteed a lighter sentence for pleading guilty than if they went to trial and lost.

[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Ignoring the actual trailer-load of evidence the Feds have on those two, they are pleading guilty because they saw what happened to Tarrio & Stuart Rhodes.

The Feds aren't even done with Rhodes yet, they are appealing his sentence because it isn't long enough for them.