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[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I enjoy being able to see out my car. 04 impala here. Parents have a 2018 Highlander and it's a heavy awful low visibility nightmare to drive.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The US started phasing in roof crush requirements in 2012, which caused manufacturers to put in more metal for the frame. That meant reducing visibility and all but requiring backup cameras.

Why do we need roof crush requirements? Because those SUVs have a high center of gravity.

This has been the way of things. Cars are just plain unsafe, and trying to make them safe also makes them worse at everything else, including being affordable.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's definitely a problem, but the ridiculously high belt line of modern cars isn't really as affected by that though. All modern cars are basically the equivalent of the old man who pulls their pants up to their nipples.

Look at the 1990s impala vs the last gen Impala. Rear visibility is nonexistant in it because the trunk is so high.

https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/6FV55c1HMDfBR-BESdVCQJZvKOCe2KlT-ul3DTT4BpM.jpg

https://www.autotrader.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/2020-Chevrolet-Impala-.5..jpg

Basically people just want to feel like their in some impenetrable fortress, at the expense of not being able to see shit around them.

[–] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Solution: Add a $10 camera and a $50 video screen, and markup the car $2,000 because it's got a rear view camera now.

[–] rambaroo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Seems like a lot if manufacturers are just bad at design because my Forester has incredible visibility, easily the best of any car I've owned. It's arguably a bit ugly because of it, but I don't care about that much.