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[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

Sounds hilarious.

More seriously, these people are lost. There is little purpose in trying to convert them, anyone hanging onto Trump now is either so incredibly ignorant we should just try to stem their paint-chip eating habit, so stupid they shouldn't be allowed to order appetizers unsupervised, or basically just fantastically bad, as in "I don't care if the world burns as long as I make a tidy sum before we collectively have to close up shop."

[-] stewie3128@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 months ago

I've taken to publically shaming my maga family members into temporary Facebook silence. It's cathartic after a particularly frustrating work day.

They always bounce back to their old form after not-too-long, which just provides another opportunity to catharticallly wail on them.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

"These people" are a fairly large percent of the country. Certainly enough to get him elected again. Wailing about them being lost, ignorant, and stupid doesn't change that fact. Ignore them at your own peril.

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

It's not that they're a particularly large portion of the country, it's that they have outsized power thanks to the electoral college and it's easier to disenfranchise dem voters. I'm not wailing about them, so much as stating fact. If 4 years of the chaos of Trump, cozying up to dictators, the million+ dead from COVID that didn't need to happen, the complete tanking of the economy and causing rampant inflation, an attempted coup/insurrection, many of his own staff saying he's not fit, Fox News turning against him (privately, but those texts all got released, thanks Dominion), a rape conviction, a fraud conviction, him spilling military secrets on tape, him stealing and attempting to hide classified docs, and now the likelihood that he's going to likely be jailed or under house arrest while trying to campaign for president, if all of that isn't enough to convince someone to not vote for Trump, what will?

The point of the comment was essentially don't bother with these people, the only answer is to vote dem in '24, and get as many people as you can to do the same. Things are stacked towards Republicans by nature of the system, you can ignore trying to change these people's minds because idk anything will at this point, but you can't sit it out or not vote dem this time around.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

They're roughly half of all voters. You'll have to contend with that fact at some point.

[-] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

That's the problem, they're not roughly half of all voters, but as previously stated have outside power. As for contending with them, the only thing to do is vote dem and start changing policies. Republicans, especially with a majority control of basically anything, are a policy failure on multiple levels.

[-] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Trump received 47% of the popular vote last election, i.e., roughly half. That has nothing to do with the electoral college, that means that roughly half of all voters voted for Trump to receive a second term, and there's polling to suggest he would receive more than that if the election was held today.

Regardless of your feelings about them, they're roughly 1 out of every 2 voters in this country. You can't just hand wave that fact away because you don't like them.

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