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Is She-Hulk actually bad or are the 'haters' just misogynists? (lemmy.world)
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[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hold on what's the "obvious" shoe horned diversity in she hulk? Forgive me but it wasn't obvious to me, I watched it and found it generally entertaining and didn't spot any "token" characters or anything like that.

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

I'm not the person you're responding to but I think he was more referring to the shoe horned women issues bit. Like how half the plotline revolves around men being useless pigs and how she has no trouble being a hulk because she's a woman and she's been controlling her anger her entire life (???).

Like it doesn't feel like it's part of her life story but rather it feels like someone told a writer "make it wooookeeee we need to appeal to womeeeeennn". It mostly felt shoe horned in to me. Like that space show where all the characters are teenagers each from a different race and they spend the first few episodes making sly comments about race and gender like it was some woke teenage drama show

[–] BluesF@feddit.uk 6 points 1 year ago

Is that shoe horned though? I mean to me it feels like the whole plot of the show is all about Jennifer's experience as a woman both in and out of the She-Hulk persona. I think if you came away just with "she has no trouble being hulk because she's a woman" you missed the rest of the show where she struggles with various aspects of how becoming She-Hulk affects her - all of which directly or indirectly link to the general struggles of being a woman.

I think that is behind posters like the OP and why they are (reasonably) suspicious of negative press around a show with central feminist themes - like another commenter pointed out, there doesn't have to be a 'reason' to include minorities in a show, they just exist in the real world and so can exist in a show. Similarly, She-Hulk is a woman and thus faces the issues that women face, is it not reasonable for the show to include those issues as part of its plot?

[–] StillPaisleyCat@startrek.website 4 points 1 year ago

It doesn’t seem like you’ve read any She-Hulk comics.

The show is the most comic-accurate Marvel TV series ever. It leans heavily on both Slott and original Byrne runs - written by men but definitely heavily leaning into the sexism experienced by the character, not to mention breaking the fourth wall before Deadpool.

You may have your views, but please let them be informed.

[–] STUPIDVIPGUY@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

"shoe-horned" + "woke" used unironically kind of invalidates any point you're trying to make