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[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 year ago (5 children)

why does nobody know what the concept of free speech actually is? it literally means congress will make no law restricting your right to assemble or speak as long as it doesn't infringe on anyone else's rights to do the same

[–] InputZero@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's because the people who pick and choose what the constitution is to them are the same people who pick and choose parts of The Bible. They believe they're always right and they don't want anyone to ever tell them they're wrong.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well no. Freedom to assemble is entirely different from free speech. Both are protected by the First Amendment.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The first amendment to the Constitution of the United States protects:

  • The right to speak, specifically the right to political speech and to be critical of the administration or its officers
  • The right to practice religion (right now this is being used to override other rights and duties)
  • The right to publish, as per above
  • The right to assemble with others
  • The right to petition your representatives in office for redress of grievances.

When Justice Amy Coney Barrett was being reviewed for her bench position, she couldn't remember the last one.

But Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[–] Phrodo_00@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The first amendment of the US is not the definition of free speech. People in other parts of the world also have the right to free speech, and it has nothing to do with the US constitution. I know it sounds crazy to you, but there's countries other than the US.

[–] LunarLoony@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago

However, we are on a thread regarding 'USA Today'... so it would track that they'd bring up the Constitution

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Nor was I saying it did.

[–] uberkalden@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're arguing that the press is important to maintaining and exercising free speech. If they go out of business because they don't make ad money, bad for free speech. Not saying they are right, but I think everyone here is missing what they are really saying.

[–] Glytch@ttrpg.network 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because they said it poorly. Why would I trust their reporting if they can't communicate a simple message like that?

[–] uberkalden@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

No one said you need to trust their reporting.

[–] PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES@lib.lgbt 3 points 1 year ago

Why do Americans think that American laws are the same thing as universal concepts?

[–] BreakDecks@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're confusing the "concept of free speech" with America's Constitutional protection of free speech (the First Amendment).

This is some peak America-brain to suggest that free speech only exists in the USA. I assure you, outside of America's borders, nobody is referencing the First Amendment when they talk about free speech, and the concept as you so condescendingly claim to be the expert on is not limited to government restriction.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

calm yourself i was obviously talking about the website usa today based in the usa. im not even from the usa...