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Biden Is Putting Arab Americans in an Impossible Position (time.com)

submitted 10 months ago by stopthatgirl7@kbin.social to c/politics@lemmy.world

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Only 17% of Arab American voters say they will vote for Biden in 2024, according to a new poll.

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[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

I mean, man, if I had my way, I'd say fuck Israel, either reduce aid drastically or demand more accountability regarding civilian casualties. But unfortunately, a good half of Dem voters are still quite content to support Israel unconditionally. I absolutely am in favor of reaching out to the Arab-American community, but I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon.

Honestly, the 'best' realistic outcome is that many of us will remember this shitshow, especially those who are young enough to still be forming opinions on international affairs, and unconditional support for Israel will drop further with upcoming voting age cohorts.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

Pug Jesus, you always spoil me by the grace of your presence. I hear ya. With the shit shows I've been in the middle of lately, doubly so. I didn't think as much of this when I first heard it, but this is like the 3rd time I'm hearing it and it feels like someone out there in media thinks this is worth warning about.

It already seems like the Biden admin is beginning to see that they are between a rock and a hard place here, so I think a lot of it will come down to how they handle this. Both parties and this system is beyond fucked, but we're all at the mercy of it till someone can take fascism off the table and put it back in the toilet. I just really hope that they don't fuck this up man. It already looks like Biden can't get Israel back on "plan" or pull back on the reins anymore or it would have happened middle of last week. So it feels fucked.

I was knocking doors for candidates today and had an old man just go on for 20 minutes about how things are all falling apart because of 20 years of immigration and that he knew who was secretly all behind it. Yup, Obama. And THAT is why you don't hear about him in the news anymore.

I don't want this war to come back here but maybe it was always inevitable. Just so you know, rifle plates and carriers are relatively cheap. <3

[-] PugJesus@kbin.social 3 points 10 months ago

Pug Jesus, you always spoil me by the grace of your presence. I hear ya.

You're too kind! I'm just a bored cripple who pays too much attention to things that make him sad.

With the shit shows I've been in the middle of lately, doubly so. I didn't think as much of this when I first heard it, but this is like the 3rd time I'm hearing it and it feels like someone out there in media thinks this is worth warning about.

Honestly, I don't think anyone was really expecting this level of... indelicate operations from the Israelis. We'd all gotten 'used' to the general oppression and Israeli "Totally guys, we use responsible and discriminate military force in Gaza" excuses, and now it just feels very... mask off. I suspect some apparatchiks in the Israeli government are pissed right now that so much PR work to enable a quiet genocide is being flushed down the drain.

I don't want this war to come back here but maybe it was always inevitable. Just so you know, rifle plates and carriers are relatively cheap. <3

Argh. As fucked as things are, I tell myself of all the crisis moments we've had to deal with, the country only dissolved into civil war once. One hopes that once was enough - and that the alternative isn't worse.

[-] TinyPizza@kbin.social 2 points 10 months ago

Maybe something to pass the time then? https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-after-the-revolution-82966686/

If you haven't already listened to it of course. I think it's a pretty fun and zany, post revolt schism, sort of cyber punkish/ anti christofascist romp.

Argh. As fucked as things are, I tell myself of all the crisis moments we've had to deal with, the country only dissolved into civil war once. One hopes that once was enough - and that the alternative isn't worse.

I've started to wonder if corruption on the global scale hasn't made all the superpowers incompetent. The US covid response, J6, the current shitshow, and a lack of response to the Republican obstructionism has really lowered my opinion of how robust our government stateside is. I'm unsure that another civil war here would really even be recognizable as such outside maybe fights evolving between cities, states, and the federal government. Probably raids back and forth from those not in the middle. Attacks on supply lines and infrastructure. Who knows really.

Very few see these conflicts for what they really are anyway, (which by my reckoning is) the beginning of the climate wars.

I guess at least we've got the brains on our side and that makes things a little more hopeful. And the blessings of his holy Pugness of course.

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