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I like dogs like I like toddlers. It's fun to hang out with other people's for a while, but ultimately they're annoying, loud, and make a mess. I feel like in the past 10 years or so, dog owners have become increasingly convinced that everyone thinks their slobbering, untrained mutt is god's gift to everyone, and expects everyone to love it unconditionally. Dogs in restaurants. Dogs in stores when you go shopping. "Oh it's so funny that your dog is jumping on me and getting it's dirty paws all over me while it tries to sniff my crotch." "Oh oops! Your dog ate my food off the counter, fucking again. Guess that's my fault because in this house nothing is safe from the coddled fucking dog." "Hey man can you watch the dog? It's really easy, not like it pisses all over the floor and knocks the trash over or anything. We have to leave the house for 2 hours and it has anxiety/depression/borderline personality disorder and he's a wittle special boy who needs constant attention."

I'm just tired of it. Nobody gives a goddamn about your stupid dog. Stop bringing your animal to restaurants, it's disgusting and inconsiderate. It's not your child, it's a dog. Dog people have made me hate dogs.

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[–] GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I'd agree that it's inconsiderate to bring an untrained dog into situations where they may cause problems, and I'd even extend this to say that it's inconsiderate to not train your dog properly. My experience is that a well-trained dog is happier - as the owner, you should be squarely in charge, and you need to help your dog understand which behaviors are acceptable and which are not.

A well-trained dog, on the other hand, should be possible to put most if not all social situations. They do not treat the wrong places as bathrooms, they do not make sounds, they do not eat things they have not been given permission to eat, and they do not greet anyone that hasn't invited them to greet.

I believe that dogs trained to this level should be allowed in restaurants, offices and shops.

[–] TJDetweiler@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Mostly agree with the first 2 paragraphs.

I don't think dogs should be allowed in restaurants though, regardless of training. The problem is people will say their dog is trained to an expert level, but there's nothing to actually prove that.

A flat ban on dogs in restaurants is the right move in my opinion.

You can maybe make an argument for offices, but honestly, I don't love dogs, and don't usually enjoy the presence of one. I'd be fine leaving them out of this environment, but I also understand this is a place people spend 8+ hours a day at, and it's not feasible/ethical to leave them at home all day by themselves.

I could be swayed on offices and shops, but I wouldn't like to see them at restaurants.

[–] trevwilson@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Everywhere I've lived the vast majority of restaurants already don't allow dogs, and when they do it's usually in outdoor areas only. If dog-friendly restaurants are so prevalent where you live that you can't avoid them, then surely that's a sign that most people don't mind (or even prefer) them, yet you think they should be banned to accommodate you

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