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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/7597775

Alienation of labour, what's that?

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[โ€“] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Doing excel for 9 hours straight is far better than breathing toxic gases inside a damp,badly lit coal mines tho. Juste saying...

[โ€“] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yes of course and eating trash is better than eating shit

[โ€“] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What I mean is that work conditions have vastly improved compared to the last century (thanks to unions). It may be miserable yes but it's a far cry from the horrible work that our ancestors were forced to endure starting from a young age.

[โ€“] alsaaas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I get what you mean. Ofc class struggle has brought us many concessions, technology progresses over time and the industrialized countries add more and more abstraction layers to manual work.

My point would be that we do have to view the working conditions relative to what's possible at the given time. Given the resources humanity has today, fully automated luxury (queer) space communism is within realistic reach!

It's a similar answer as to world hunger: it's a systematic distribution - not resource - problem. That being artificially created scarcity thanks to a profit and greed driven economic base (capitalism) and inequitable/inefficient allocation of resources (markets)

I can only agree

[โ€“] electrogamerman@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Pelicanen@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Depends on the trash. Depends on the shit.

[โ€“] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Doing excel for 9 hours straight is far better than breathing toxic gases inside a damp,badly lit coal mines tho. Juste saying...

smuglord

Give it time. Those work conditions are getting gradually worse all over again as the internal contradictions intensify.

[โ€“] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I suppose that is the 3 largest domino.