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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 114 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Other sacrifices that Gen Z and millennial employees say they’d make in exchange for a four-day workweek include working longer hours (48%), changing jobs or companies (35%), working weekends or evenings (27%) and even taking a pay cut (13%).

If people can be as productive with a four-day workweek (and other surveys and studies have shown this to be the case), there should be no need for workers to sacrifice anything.

Realistically, employers should be the ones sacrificing to keep productive staff happy, including giving them a four-hour workweek with no strings attached.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Tbh if we got a four day work week we would have more time to think about and advocate for the things we want anyway. A pay cut would be temporary.

[–] Drusas@kbin.social 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's why the owner class doesn't want it. Keep the masses busy and tired.

I would be outraged, but I'm just too tired 😩

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

four-hour workweek

Now we're getting somewhere!

After all, a typical office employee only does 15 minutes of real actual work.

[–] Rediphile@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If people are as productive in 4 days as they are in 5 days, I don't see how the employer would be sacrificing anything at all. They would just be saving a day of office lighting bills.

[–] Cringe2793@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The employer will see that you "could" be doing more work, since you accomplish everything in 4 hours. "You don't have enough work to occupy your time", they'd say in my country.

That's why people act busy. Because when you're efficient, you get punished with more work.

[–] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

This is true. My company has afternoons off in the summer (4.5 day work weeks). Basically they acknowledge that no one is doing anything after lunch on a Friday.

The same amount of actual work gets done. It's actually more efficient because no one is coming up with useless meetings and busywork.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

The "sacrifice" is number of total man hours going down. Nevermind that the remaining hours are vastly superior to the ones you lose, that's a number that's smaller, and unless that's "how much we're paying", numbers being smaller is a bad thing, mmkay?