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[–] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 94 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It's always hilarious when these "rationalist" chucklefucks point to the 1% of trans people that have regrets, and most of their regrets revolve around their family and "friends" being assholes about it.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 69 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I believe the actual figures are 3% of trans people regret transitioning, and 4% of that subset regret it for reasons apart from their friends and family being unsupportive.

So, 97% don't regret a thing, and the relative few who do simply don't like being constantly harassed and disparaged by their immediate community.

[–] muse@kbin.social 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

25% of people regret getting a knee replacement surgery done.

Something that allows one to walk.

People regret transitioning less than that.

[–] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think you meant "People regret ~~de~~transitioning less than that."

[–] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Exactly. So, 3 of every 100 people who transition regret it, and of those 3 people, rounding to the nearest whole person, everyone who detransitions does so because of bigots.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Imagine using that logic elsewhere, right? "10% of people with tattoos regret getting a tattoo. Ban all tattoos!!!!"

[–] V17@kbin.social -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hate make an argument for their side, but most transphobes seem to "only" want to ban any and all medical interventions for underage people. And tattoos are generally limited for underage people, even though most studios around here will do it if done with parent's consent.

[–] Dee@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

but most transphobes seem to “only” want to ban any and all medical interventions for underage people.

You might want to check recent GOP bills in various states, this is very much not the case and they're targeting adults as well. They're just using the child angle to further their heinous behavior with less judgement.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or if someone wants to be pedantic, 3 in every 2500 people regret transitioning because they essentially felt it wasn't right for them. That's 0.12%.

And those three people create videos and amass followings (filled with right-wing shitheads that assure them they're so brave, Jesus would be proud, etc.) calling to stop transition care for the other 2,497 people for whom it was the correct treatment, simply by virtue of the fact that the three outliers exist.

Because as we all know, we only use treatments that work perfectly for every—oh, wait...

[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Was curious about context, liver transplant survival rate is 87% after 1 year.

It is the second most common transplant surgery after kidney.

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/321754#survival-rates

Compared to roughly 6-30% of knee replacements.

[–] V17@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

FYI rationalists are an actual group and although they're largely weirdos, there's pretty much zero overlap between them and PragerU conservatives.