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Sam Bankman-Fried found guilty on all seven counts
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But why does it take another 5 months to give the actual sentence? That's a ridiculous amount of time, and apparently quite common!!
Because judgment on previous similar cases must be researched (jurisprudence) and then each charge refers to a law that has a specific range of sentence length.
Then, the judgement usually also accounts for different factors(good or bad) to determine the length of the sentence for each charge within the range determined by the laws.
There is also determining if the sentences are concurrent or not. And there is probably a lot of other stuff.
This is what I can think of from the top of my head.
The judge must also write the judgement in legalese, referencing all that was taken into account for the judgement.
And this isn't the only case that the judge has to complete. They have multiple going on at the same time.
This is a federal case there isn’t any standing law with regard to sentencing that needs to be researched. The guidelines are clear and known by all parties and the court. The delay is consistent with similar matters. The court will now hold sentencing conferences and hearing wherein both parties can present sentencing evidence such as testimony and mitigating factors that are not admissible during criminal proceedings or were not admissible to that particular proceeding. There are also a great deal of scheduling concerns and conflicts with regard to court staff and attorneys on both sides.
People should never be upset that due process is deliberate.
Thanks for the clarification, I am not that versed in the judiciary procedures and your comment gave me a better understanding.
I agree with you, 5 months to wait for a potential life in prison isn't too slow.
Due process is deliberate? I don't think anyone is arguing about that.
It's about what is 'due' to the non-guilty. WE are 'due' a justice system that doesn't take LITERALLY YEARS to put white collar criminals behind bars.
Do NOT forget that there is a miscarriage of justice with too slow of a system as well, and we are ABSOLUTELY there.
Nah, go seek your pound of flesh elsewhere you fucking ghoul.
What is ghoulish about recognizing that a system that simultaneously takes YEARS to put literal traitors and millionaire thieves behind bars, but will throw a poor petty theif in jail same day, is actually NOT a "just" system?
Your inability to observe reality is the truly ghoulish thing here. Fucking pathetic defense of a failed system you have, "fucking ghoul". Sure proved me wrong.
Calm down. The bail system needs work and has been revamped in many states. People shouldn't be sitting in jail unless they are a current danger or after they have been sentenced.
The length of time involved in court cases is due to the limited number of judges, lawyers, court clerks, etc. All of these are skilled workers who work more than 50 hours per week.
Are you going to law school to help move these cases along? Paralegal school? Advocating for more court funding? Advocating for UBI?
I advocate for a great many things. It is not my personal responsibility to fix every problem I rightfully complain about. Are you seriously so pathetic that you're going to use the logic of climate change deniers?
"If you're so worried about it, why don't you stop driving your car?" Yea sorry, asshole, dismissing my valid complaints doesn't magically fix the system.
Sounds a lot like doing an essay for school, where you have a week, and at the same time must do all your other school work.
I'd say this is unacceptable, and practices need to be streamlined for quicker judgements. Of course that may cost a bit more money, but 5 months is still ridiculous IMO.
This is just like most jobs. Many things to do at the same time. I think 5 months for such a big case isn't that much of a time considering he is facing 110 years
Judges have clerks and a staff that will compile all the research and even draft orders. It’s not all on one person.
Both prosecutor and defense usually have recommendations for punishment, based on circumstances and previous practices. Having help checking that out, should not make it take longer.
He’s going away for a long time. There’s a whole process to it beyond just the decision on the length of the sentence. He has to go through a psychological evaluation, physical exams, there’s a process to figure out where he will serve his sentence, etc. His attorneys will try to get him into an easier prison. Recent convicts are often afforded the opportunity to get their affairs in order. There will also be appeals.
It seems a long way off, but there’s a lot to do and there could be other factors. Maybe the judge’s schedule is a little backed up. There are holidays coming up. Who knows. SBF is already locked up anyway. There’s no way he’s getting less than 10-15 years so there’s not a huge sense of urgency to rush through this.