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YouTube is increasing Premium prices in multiple countries, right after an ad-blocker crackdown | You either pay rightfully for the video content you consume, or you live with the ads.::Google is increasing the prices of YouTube Premium and YouTube Music Premium subscriptions in some regions, right after blocking ad-blockers.

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[–] daniskarma@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If some day I cannot block ads on YouTube I'll go to Patreon or any other platform that gives creators a real share of what I'm paying. Google will not see my money.

[–] Tire@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Has YouTube even done anything to improve the platform in the last 8 year? The only thing that I’ve seen change is the search turning to trash with “recommended content” after 4 real search results.

[–] OrgunDonor@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They removed the dislike button. That improved the platform right?

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And they did it in a way so half-ass that if you have the right plug in the dislike button is back. I think the most pathetic is when I see that the dislike button is turned off by the owner of the video.

I understand why they did it, they were tired of major corporations having PR nightmares when trailers for unpopular products get downloaded into Oblivion, but protecting shareholders of other companies should not be their job. Their priority should be to content creators, sadly however this is how ethics works, not capitalism.

But, being able to turn off the dislike button all together...

Imagine every other job getting to do that, I am a janitor, imagine if one day I was allowed to have people just not be able to look at the dirt on whatever floor I didn't mop. I would basically never mop again.

I understand that YouTube is a hobby for most, at least it was in the beginning, but it is now a business. And if I were the Better Business Bureau I would give them a big fat F on their report card

[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago

To be clear, the plugin doesn’t make the button come back, the button never went away. The dislike counter went away, and the plugin doesn’t “bring it back” it simply approximates the number of dislikes (unless the channel operator opts in to having the info shared directly from their API, which comes with some security risks.)

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No.

In fact they've made it objectively worse by restricting what you're allowed to make videos about.

The state of True Crime is abysmal.. it has gotten to the point where censorship is stricter than Cable TV, as the names of various felonies have to be bleeped out in order to not catch youtube's wrath.

Yet Far Right Political Channels are free to drop whatever slurs against transfolk they like.. and openly accuse whatever drag performer they want of being a kiddie diddler even though true crime channels get a content strike for saying "pedophile" even though it's in the context of someone literally tried and convicted as one.

Ever wonder why the kids are saying "Unalive" so much? It started as a cute 4th wall leaning cover for death in a Deadpool/Spider-Man crossover...

Now it has regular usage because direct references to death (Again, Regardless of context) is against Youtube Terms of Service.

It's so bad that a close friend of mine who is a streamer, despite not posting to youtube, has had to train himself to exclusively say Unalived so that clips of his streams can be safely posted to youtube, his livelihood cannot risk him using the "d" or "k" words.

It's absurd because a reason web content became so popular is that it wasn't restricted to the same kind of censorship the FCC puts on Cable TV.. We can have an Angry Nerd drop as many F Bombs as he wants while talking about something as innocuous as Super Mario 3...

But thanks to Youtube.. not anymore

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Probably a lot on the backend. Honestly fewer changes on the front is probably for the better at this point.

[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was under the impression that YT Premium paid creators the same per view as YT with ads. Is this not the case?

[–] Stephen304@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I believe Louis Rossmann said that giving a single dollar directly to a creator is more than a lifetime of watching their ads. Premium I think is really good comparatively but that's only because ads pay so little.

(https://youtu.be/4Q3ZXQZZlcE?t=55 is where he says this according to his cpm)

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[–] SirQuackTheDuck@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Some creators have said that the cut they get from premium viewers is higher than that of ad based (SpiffingBrit for example, in his YouTube download exploit video).

If that still holds true is unknown.

[–] Raxiel@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Linus (LTT) also said that one premium view was worth significantly more than ad based.

[–] theRealBassist@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't believe so. As I understand it, all Premium money goes into a big bucket. Then, views/watchtime/etc. are used to calculate what percentage of the pie a given creator will receive.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah, so if you watch one creator a lot then they get a lot more

[–] AliceTheMinotaur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Only issue would be getting the creators to move. That nay be more difficult than said with some. I already follow some on rumble, I only stay on YouTube as others haven't.

Otherwise I agree