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[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 150 points 1 year ago (4 children)

There’s also the option of biting the bullet and paying for YouTube Premium.

No. Never. I'd rather stop using YT at all than giving in to coerced user-tracking.

[–] NoRodent@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I mean, I might have considered paying for YT premium if I thought it offered some value (other than disabling ads) but I won't sure as hell pay for anything that any company is trying to blackmail me into.

[–] pascal@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use it because YouTube music is included and it's great while driving, it allows background play even with the screen off (I'm talking about mobile).

There's something more, but nothing that a pro user cannot already do with third tools.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I find it funny how sometimes apps "create value" by taking something away which is included by default in similar products and goes without saying.

In this context: YouTube is the only app I know which is denying to work when put into background or with the screen off.

Or take some car manufacturers who start asking for a fee just to use basic functionality.

[–] ArghZombies@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But that's the wrong way around. They don't want you to pay, they make their money through advertising. They make far more money from advertiser's paying to put up ads than they ever make from people paying for premium.

Same as with Facebook now bringing in an ad-free version (in the EU anyway) - they charge higher than is reasonable so that people will opt for the ad-supported free version instead.

It's not that you are blackmailed into paying premium, it's that you're encouraged not to as a way of explicitly consenting to ads.

Basically, you're damned if you do, damned if you don't.

[–] LufyCZ@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

lmao you're so wrong on ads being more profitable than premium, especially on a per-user basis

According to this you can expect to make around $18/1000 views. That's with 55% going to the creator and 45% to Google. Which means that Google makes around $14.5 per 1000 views.

Coincidentally, that's also rougly the price of YouTube Premium. Are you telling me that you watch a thousand videos per month?

[–] Hadriscus@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago

That makes a lot of sense.

[–] soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz 22 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For desktop install and use "FreeTube".

Alternatively for your android phone you can use "GrayJay"

Never. Pay. For. YouTube. Premium

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

NewPipe still works well for me on Android.

[–] S_204@lemmy.world -2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I assume you need to be rooted for Gray Jay?

[–] Rin@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago

No, it works fine for me. It's just an apk.

https://grayjay.app/

[–] Lime66@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] ogginger43@infosec.pub 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You don't need root because this is its own app unlike the apps like revance which patch your existing YouTube app.

[–] Gumus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

You don't need root for ReVanced. It can patch an APK from storage.

[–] Resol@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Abandoning YouTube is seriously more difficult than abandoning other "non-fediverse" general social media platforms, since it's got so much useful content that gets straight up ruined by the company that owns the website.

I doubt PeerTube is anything better than Vimeo, at least for now, things can improve after all.

[–] OceanSoap@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

At this point, I don't even care about the user tracking. I just don't want to sit through unskippable ads anymore. Especially when it's the same ad over and over again.

[–] Rosco@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Well then you're in luck, you have a lot of options for removing ads before giving money to YouTube.