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[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas killed the two-state solution. Israel bent over backwards to try to compromise with and accommodate the Palestinians, which it had no legal obligation to do, and Hamas and its ilk rejected those offers because they didn't want two states--they wanted one state, sans Jews.

I'm not a fan of what Israel has been doing in the West Bank, but don't lie to me and act like those actions are why a two-state solution isn't working. Palestine didn't want to exist in a world that included Israel.

[–] neeshie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

don’t lie to me and act like those actions are why a two-state solution isn’t working.

Do you understand how it makes a 2 state solution physically impossible? That's Israel's doing. You can't have a solution that displaces 700,000 people, so you can't have a 2 state solution.

Israel has never offered a solution that gave Palestinians a right to return. The people displaced in the Nakba and later, and the people born into refugee camps, deserve this right. Israel's proposed peace solutions are all garbage and unfair, and it is insane to expect Palestinians to be ok with making huge compromises regarding land that they were cleansed from.

they wanted one state, sans Jews.

Hamas? Sure. But don't pretend that the various secular organizations wanted to ethnically cleanse jews from the area, they didn't. They supported a secular state solution.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well then, they should oust Hamas and the Palestinian Authority. Then they can return to the bargaining table, but they shouldn't expect to receive the same generous concessions that were offered previously, imo. I don't see Israel being so willing to put its national security up for compromise as it did before.

[–] neeshie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

they shouldn’t expect to receive the same generous concessions that were offered previously

Cmon dude. The deals offered were not generous. They were bullshit and insulting. Israel has left them with only one option, violence. It really fucking sucks, and innocent people are dying, but it's because Israel doesn't want peace, not because the Palestinians don't.

[–] BaldProphet@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Tell yourself whatever helps you sleep at night, bud. Hopefully the fact that you support terrorism is overcome by the propaganda you dogmatically cling to.