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Pretty one-sided replies so far so let me just be Devil's Advocate / explain where I'm coming from.
I want to chant things that mean: "Free Palestine", "Stop the violence", "Freedom and Equality for all"
I don't want to chant things that mean: "Kill the Jews"
Do I want to chant "Abolish Israel"... well maybe, I mean it depends on what you replace it with.
"Palestine one and free from the river to the sea" sounds like it is a call for a single arab state and the elimination of Israel, which is bordering on chauvinism.
Or at least that's the other side of it I was interested in discussing.
To be fair, I’d say your replies are one-sided because you’re posting in a place where the majority are not too sympathetic to Israel’s existence
States are bad, and explicitly genocidal settler colonial states are double-plus-bad.
Counterpoint: States are the only way to ensure the dictatorship of the proletariat until communism can be achieved.
No argument there. Nation-states are the only technology thus far that can effectively fight nation-states. Until we find something better, states are what we've got to work with. But the ultimate goal is to do away with them entirely.