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I've been speaking with other more informed communists and they've told me that none actually exist. Is this true?

China, Laos, and Vietnam: now notoriously capitalists. Workers work 12+ hours with no protection in horrible factory conditions. Suicide rates are so high that suicide nets are installed. The air is so polluted millions die from lung cancer, especially factory workers w/out basic masks. Corporations dominate

North Korea: Undemocratically ruled by the Kim dynasty. Jong un indulges lavishly at the expense of his citizens, ordering millions in fine wine and trips from Denis Rodman. They might be the most socialist though, as Juche seems to otherwise be democratic.

Cuba: Sanctions have taken a massive toll, but even taking that into account the country still has its own problems. They have massive food shortages and inventory probs and aren't self sufficient after 60+ years. Why couldn't they've use machinery imported from the Soviet Union to develop their agriculture and fishery? The Soviets supported them heavily. They seem to be incredibly mismanaged or corrupt

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[โ€“] anarchost@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Unless you are admitting to not reading any of the previous posts before you replied, you know exactly what it is.

Instead of deflecting, let's talk about the 10 principles and whether you find them acceptable or not. I understand this might cause some discomfort for you, because for some reason, many leftists like to treat the doctrine of many countries like holy scripture that must not be condemned, or must be interpreted in a certain way. I'm not that kind of religious person, though.

[โ€“] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

It looks like you copy and pasted something from Wikipedia. If you could link the full translated legal document I'd be happy to look at it. Like the constitution I linked you, that's a document ratified by a Democratic body. The whatever you pasted is not anything really.

The ten principles of Communism as I know them are as follows. Spoiler cause its long:

spoilerPIGPOOPBALLS

[โ€“] anarchost@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you believe Hitler ordered the Holocaust? Because you're starting to remind me of people who deny that.

Do you want to end the conversation by trolling? Is that your signal that you no longer wish to participate in it, as you are becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the fact that you can't deny the existence of North Korea's cultlike laws?

[โ€“] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Do you believe Hitler ordered the Holocaust? Because you're starting to remind me of people who deny that.

There's lots of paperwork that indicate that he did so I don't know what your point is

Please just provide an original source so I can engage with your issue. As of now it seems like you're the one trolling.

[โ€“] anarchost@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don't see why I should go out of my way to post documentation a second time for an internet troll who thinks pictures of animal genitalia is an argument.

You're continuing to dodge the content of the 10 principles. If you don't like the translation, post your own. But tell me whether you support them or not.

[โ€“] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Were these 10 principles ratified by any governing body in the DRPK? How were the codified? Is it literally just something from wikipedia?

Please tell me the garbage you posted is anything other than that.

[โ€“] anarchost@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay, I'm getting curious now because you are using Nazi talking points. You said you believe Hitler ordered the Holocaust because of the documents proving it... Can you show me your standard for evidence by producing these documents, so I can know how to better suit your requirements?

[โ€“] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] anarchost@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Hey, I think you're onto something there. Where is the fascism in that logic? I think you're really close to understanding an important point here.

Remember the good faith.

[โ€“] anarchost@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Still waiting you for you to post the paperwork in a capacity that someone with your ideology would not immediately dismiss

And I'm still waiting for you to comment on the majesty of the pig popping on its own balls. With out acknowledging its grace how can I know you're acting in good faith?