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[–] swearengen@sopuli.xyz 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wow that was a great read. Leif comes across as very perceptive on multiple fronts here.

Unfortunately I think his warning about the internet ending up like "souped up TV" is looking more likely by the day.

Right now it's quite easy to force a site or service to bend the knee to outside pressure. No matter how right or wrong that pressure is. People will go after hosting and ISPs, if that doesn't work they'll tie people up directly in the courts. You must provide real contact info and be willing to play ball if you operate on the old web.

Embracing encryption is the only thing I can think to do to avoid that. Which honestly kind of sucks, because while true anonymity would save sites like Omegle who act in good faith and police themsevles in a reasonable manner, others that don't will also be protected. I think the pros out weigh the cons with anonymity but that is a hard pill to swallow for many.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Solutions needed, how to get the great masses seamless access to the dark web.

And how to we make dark web DNS addresses not be stupid garbage ?

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You'll just end with companies making the "dark web" mainstream and just turning it into shit just like they're doing with the regular web

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As opposed to remaining in the festering shit pile that old web is becoming ?

[–] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just saying making the dark web easier to use isn't a solution, as soon as it gets mass adoption you're right back to square one

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

No the underlying structure is going to change the nature of it. Yes it will eventually get corrupted and the next thing will address that too.

[–] Cassus@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd rather take garbage addresses instead of the current trend of enshitification.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well then that's going to be an irrelevant nerd clubhouse

[–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Once upon a time the entire internet was an irrelevant nerd clubhouse. Those were good days.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Actually yes, but it also was great to get everybody in here. It's the vultures and their advertising friends that ruined the internet