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You just set up a pretty Strawmen here. I've said nothing about any of this. You just sling this at me with no real connection, so it's basically angry rambling with nothing inside.
I am concerned about any civilians getting killed or harmed in any way. But you seem to be angry that I say it's not okay to kill civilians for anyone. Why is that?
Why can't you just acknowledge that it's not okay to kill civilians of any kind? Or is it that you just want a special group of civilians killed? Please tell me because now you just seem to support the killing of a group of civilians you don't like for what reason whatsoever.
Settlers aren’t civilians, they are agents of the state whose express purpose is to colonize and settle lands the settler colonial nation state they represent have claimed. It’s the same reason that the US sent settlers ahead of where they intended to dispossess indigenous groups. It gives a cover for their inevitable escalatory retaliation when the indigenous are forced to turn to violence to protect themselves. These tactics have been analyzed for hundreds of years, and they don’t work on people who actually read history. If you want to be an Israeli civilian, live in Israel’s territory, not the illegally occupied settlements.
But Hamas is not only targeting settlers. Even IF they were agents, which is just a complete exaggeration. So again, why don't you say killing civilians is wrong? Why do you want to defend people who willingly target them?
It’s not only not an exaggeration, it’s a clearly stated intention of settler colonist societies. Maybe read some history books, I can recommend a few.
Do you condemn the Warsaw Uprising? They didn’t target only Nazis, so they must have been unjustified, right?
You know what? I don't feel like dealing with you. You will not change your mind and neither do I. And both of us can't change a thing about this war. So I'm done with you.
Why do you always distract? Please answer.
I don’t respond to bad faith questions. It’s a debate bro tactic, and I’m not here to debate you.