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[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That sentiment is nice and all,

That sentiment, if followed by everyone, would make for a really good and peaceful world to live in. It's something we should all strive for.

conservatives literally want to murder me

I doubt the majority of conservatives would want to literally murder you.

There are always a few crazies on either end that we all have to deal with.

for my gender identity,

My suggestion would be to live somewhere where the majority of the people you live amongst don't give a flying f about your gender identity and will not harass you about it.

And then work politically for change, maybe even running for office.

And if you can't move, try to find others with the same circumstances as you and network with them, work together, and try to affect change as a group.

I’m not going to treat those people the way I would want to be treated

An eye for an eye leaves everyone blind.

Human beings are easy to ramp up into destruction, and hard to keep passive into peace.

The reality is we can't all just go and do what we want, whenever we want, we have an ethical and social contract with each other that we all need to adhere to.

When that is not done, war and death happens.

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never said they all want to murder me, you just conveniently left that part out so you could argue against a position I didn't take.

The ones that do want to murder me don't deserve the same treatment as those who do. I'd recommend reading eg https://medium.com/extra-extra/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1af7007d637.

As for moving, I'm absolutely not about to allow right-wingers to control my life to that extent that I'd move to some other country.

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Never said they all want to murder me

conservatives literally want to murder me

[–] hydroptic@sopuli.xyz 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Don't be disingenuous, why are you purposefully leaving a part out of that quote that you have to know changes the meaning?

a nontrivial percentage of conservatives literally want to murder me

See? Does that say "all"? Why are you going out of your way to make it seem like I said something I didn't?

[–] CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Don’t be disingenuous, why are you purposefully leaving a part out of that quote that you have to know changes the meaning?

I'm not, and I'm not. Here's your original quote that I quoted and that I replied to...

conservatives literally want to murder me

I doubt the majority of conservatives would want to literally murder you.

There are always a few crazies on either end that we all have to deal with.

I never said "all" either, please don't put words in my mouth or create strawman.

The overall conversation was about the majority of them, and even on my last quote when I requoted what you said, it wasn't to insinuate all, but just the majority.

The point I was trying to make is that there's just a few extremists on either end, and that the majority of them wouldn't do what you described.

Anyway, I'm not willing to go back and forth on this any further, it seems like we'll have to agree to disagree, and move on.