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Republicans in Ohio want to undermine the will of voters who approved a measure enshrining reproductive freedom into the state’s constitution

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

What they say their "god" says does not matter in a secular government. They can go fuck themselves. Whenever anyone talks about their god, in my head, I give it about as much relevance as if they were talking about what Harry Potter demands. Or

Also, I'd like it if more people were to ask these radical right wing religious extremists which god they are talking about. All too often, we give this provincialism - that talking about "God" must mean we have to assume they are talking about Jehovah/Yahweh/Allah - a pass. Make them spell it out.

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Hey, don't get the Muslims involved. Their god sanctions abortions (under specific circumstances, though over the years these have mostly evolved to: mother in danger, rape, child will be severely handicapped or the old, we don't have the effing money for one more mouth to feed and may God forgive us and we won't talk to anybody about it).

That's why it baffled me to see Canadian Muslims support their Christian counterparts to ban abortions.

At this point, I have to say that they've never even read their books.

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Same with Judaism. The fetus isn't considered alive until it emerges from the woman. Until that point, it's considered potential life and not as important as the woman's actual life. In fact, the fetus is considered part of the woman the same way as her hip bone is part of her body.

In Judaism, getting an abortion isn't considered murder like some Christians think it is. Then again, those Christians don't care what other religions (or people who aren't religious) think. They want their religious views to be the law of the land.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My comment was not about Muslims, it was aimed at xtians and the way the term "God" is provincially just meant to mean theirs. Interestingly enough, they have the same god as Muslims, since they are both Abrahamic religions. Allah = Jehovah.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we consider them to be literary characters rather than an actual divine being, then I'm comfortable saying the God of Jews, Christians, and Muslims are all separate. They're about as similar as Ares and Athena (both fitting into the god of war slot for the Greeks, but in different ways).

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They all use the same source material as their origin story and source of "authority", even if there have been various retcons and reboots. Shrug.

[–] Zippit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I know, sorry I worded it that way.

[–] Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

Obviously. Anyone who has read them knows fucking better. Pun intended.