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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ukraine isn't my country. They're fighting for their country.

My point wasn't that "fighting for your country" isn't a thing that happens; my point was that the many fights the United States involved itself in over the last 30+ years...aren't that.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They are pretty much fighting for all of Europe and America.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If there's one thing I can guarantee is on no Ukrainian soldier's mind right now, it's "What will happen to America if we lose?"

A foreign power has invaded their country, and they're fighting back. Ukraine is on the right side of history here. They don't need you to grandstand for them.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Weird it's an argument their president makes all the time.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

See? They can grandstand for themselves.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Is it grand standing if it's true? There are absolutely Ukrainians who believe they are fighting to stop a modern fascist form invading all of Europe and pressing through to America, the country which led the international response to the invasion and which is Ukraine's political and economic partner over the past decade. I know they aren't defending America so to say as fervently as they are defending their home, but they know what is at stake.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

AHAHAHHAA well I've got some great news for the Ukrainian troops: They can rest a little easier. Ukraine is not defending Western Europe from the Russians. That's what NATO is for. And seeing how Russia has done against Ukraine...I think we gonna be okay. Notice who Russia very much has not invaded? They know they can't take the heat so they've kept out of the kitchen.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Your understanding of this situation is a mile wide and an inch deep.