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Trump Campaign Doubles Down: It’s Totally Fine That He Called His Enemies ‘Vermin’
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It literally is both sides in this case though. I mean fuck Trump and he has a long laundry list of other stuff to legitimately complain about him for, but Clinton had the whole "deplorables" thing. You guys were all cool with that and defended her. Now he Trump does basically the same thing and you wanna make it a big deal. Pick a rule and stick to it. Stop changing them depending on how much you like the person breaking them.
The "both sides" people would have less to bang on about if Biden weren't such a poor candidate and the Democrats weren't such a poor alternative. Trump is a dogshit sandwich and Biden is merely a rabbit shit sandwich. Undoubtedly, Biden will do less long term damage to Americans (Palestinians... probably more than Trump) but I think you should be holding out for a candidate and a Party that won't make you any kind of shit.
The poster pointed out that you have nothing and just say "both sides" and your response is an empty analogy repeating your "both sides" stupidity. Lol
And your analogy is way off. Biden is dry toast made from wonder bread. It's not very nutritious and if you eat it long enough you might develop some kind of health issues long down the road. If you eat a shit sandwich you could catch a disease that can kill you.
Oh yah, that's sold it to me. If you're wondering where my allegiances lie, I'm a UK citizen living in London. Even the Labour Party here is to the right of me. The Democrats would never accept most of the Parliamentary Labour Party as members because centre-left here equals 'undemocratically communist' there. We've had universal healthcare since the 1940s and the Democrats still haven't been able to implement it three quarters of a century later. Why is that? Because the Democrats are just as enthralled by your cult of greed as the republicans are. Yes, the Republicans are worse in that since the Tea Party incursion they are batshit unhinged but it still doesn't make the Democrats a good choice.
You think by calling Biden dry toast that isn't very nutritious is arguing that democrats are good? Lol
With that level of critical thought, it's no wonder you're defending equating the two sides.
Yeah, what I'm not doing is saying that both sides are equally as bad. That would be a false equivalence. I am pointing out that there would be a lot less room for people to make that false equivalence if one side were actually much better than the other rather than "less bad".
But you carry on with your centrist nonsense, with any luck the dry toast is going to beat the fascist rapist because your fellow Americans will elect to eat the rabbit shit sandwich.
The issue here and the flaw in your reasoning is that you're defending Trump by saying "DeMs ArE BaD ToO". Trump doesn't deserve defending. Quit peddling the dems are bad too bullshit. No matter how much or little he's done in his term for the US or any other country, Biden is without a doubt a better choice than fascist, rapist, state secrets selling, man-baby Trump. We all know the two party system sucks. We all know dems aren't perfect. The point is anyone on the left is better than the scumbag known as Donald Trump, so drop the wannabe centrist bullshit.
I'm not defending Trump. That's where your entire argument falls down. I am bemoaning the lack of an alternative to Trump that would give the American people the choices that they deserve.
Biden isn't on the left he's in the centre. Bernie Sanders and AOC are centre left but they ain't running the show and never will be.
"I'm from the UK and your left isn't as left as our left!" No one cares. But I don't know what I expected. If you just want to die on this hill of extra chromosomes, be my guest. What a waste of time to debate with someone who argues symantics and isn't capable of reflecting on anything they're saying.
You don't care that people are going bankrupt because they get cancer? You don't care your police are running wild and killing innocent civilians? You don't care that people are still defending slavery?
OK. I think I have explained myself in full and I don't get what extra chromosomes have to do with any of it. I'm done. Thank you for your time.
Oh, centrists care about all of those. They're the status quo that centrists want to preserve.
You called them both shit sandwiches, just one has less shit in it.
Maybe you could have made that argument pre-trump - but even that would be a stretch even if we can't get everything we want from Democrats - but now that republicans have been completely captured by trump,who is all but completely openly being fascist, it just makes zero sense.
"One side literally tried to violently overturn an election they lost, and now their leader is openly using Nazi talking points and threatening the other side. But democrats have failed to pass universal health care, so those people calling them both shit sandwiches do have a point."
It's mind-numbingly dumb.
Democrats tried to reform health care in the Clinton terms and under Obama and both times, it was defeated and watered down by medical industry propaganda and Republicans. Meanwhile Republicans want to cut our existing socialized healthcare (Medicare, Medicaid) any chance they can get, and several solidly R states refused to even accept Federal funds and participate in the Medicaid expansion. So saying D's are as bad on this issue is far from accurate. Try qualifying for Medicaid in a state like Oregon or Colorado vs. Texas or Alabama.
Wtf are you talking about. Biden has been crushing it despite a hostile Congress.
I particularly enjoyed the way he crushed Israeli opposition to a ceasefire by electing to send them a few more millions in military aid.
Delusional. Biden is the presidet of the United States not of Israel and certainly not of Hamas.
Which Republicans don't support that? They've been falling over each other to 'support israel' the most.
Both sides is legit because Clinton said deplorables and you defended it. Now Trump says vermin and you want it to be a big deal. It is literally the same thing and you don't care when it's your side but want everyone to get worked into a frenzy when it's the other guy.
Calling people deplorable, and threatening to take action against de-humanized vermin is literally the same thing? That's some grade-A motivated reasoning.
She said that hardcore Trump supporters are deplorable. Maybe not a great political move but I don't see a problem with accuracy. She didn't say she wanted to stamp them out like vermin, accuse them of made-up crimes for years, threaten vengeance or basically quote hitler verbatim, so not sure what you think the comparison is.
You're very welcome. When you getting free universal healthcare? Biden doing that next term is he? But he's going to stop the shelling of Gaza though?