That's a very difficult question to answer but they're doing it your way and now there's just more massacre on both sides with seemingly no end in sight. Is it really freedom if everyone is dead?

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Have you ever read about any colonized country ? The colonizers commited the most heinous acts to the natives and when they inevitably insurge they'd massacre them. These countries are free because they fought until they become free. Death is inevitable until freedom is gained.

[–] tillary@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I see your point but there's gotta be a better example. The natives didn't have any allies that could stand up to the colonizers or even a way to ask for outside help. Today, we have the internet.

I'm just spitballing here in my privileged American home, but if Hamas was vocal about not stooping to Israel's civilian-killing level, and did major damage to a political building without harming anyone, that could have given Palestinians more sympathy on the world stage. Even if it's the thing that "must be done for survival", it's really hard to be on the side of innocent killing. I personally can't be on either side of this conflict, and many feel the same.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So the the several decades of massacre, ethnic cleansing , forced land seizing and house demolishing to give to fucking settlers that Isreal has been commiting towards the Palestinian was okey ? When palistinians attack the fucking settlers that stole their land it's too much ?

[–] tillary@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You didn't read my post. I'm on nobody's side. What Isreal has done is 100% not okay, and at scale much worse than what Hamas has collectively done in response.

[–] Diabolo96@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I read it. Not siding with the ones that are fighting for freedom because they're fighting for freedom doesn't make sense to me. Have you ever read about any colonized country ? Reading about the fight of the colonized for freedom and the tactics used by colonizers to delegitimize their fights from killing civilians as punishment, calling the freedom fighters terrorists to playing the victim and lying to achieve that status. It's eye opening.

[–] tillary@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If Palestine continues with their eye for an eye approach, they are going to lose their fight for freedom. They need strong allies, like every other country fighting for their freedom. Ukraine is the best example I have, but I know it's not the same. I hope Palestine gets their freedom my friend, it doesn't look good so far. This is the last comment I'm gonna make.

[–] Limitless_screaming@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

Today, we have the internet.

LOL

but if Hamas was vocal about not stooping to Israel’s civilian-killing level, and did major damage to a political building without harming anyone, that could have given Palestinians more sympathy on the world stage.

How? their rockets barely do anything. The only way for them to do damage is a ground invasion, and for that to happen they'd need the help of radicalized Gazans, and those Gazans will 100% do harm to civilians.

Plus "sympathy on the world stage" isn't worth two Qasam rockets.

Even if it’s the thing that “must be done for survival”, it’s really hard to be on the side of innocent killing. I personally can’t be on either side of this conflict, and many feel the same.

It doesn't matter, if you're a citizen of the US or Europe, then you're automatically assigned to the occupation terrorists side by your government. Hamas wasn't looking for your support, because you can do nothing, only your glorious supreme leader can.