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Image is of the Herðubreið tuya in northeast Iceland, formed when ice sheets covered Iceland thousands of years ago. It's not really relevant to the Grindavik situation but I think they look neat. The title also doesn't make much sense but I saw the pun and took it.


Off in Iceland, different kinds of tunnels are causing problems. Underneath the town of Grindavik in southwestern Iceland, not far from the capital of Reykjavik, tens of thousands of earthquakes are portending the movement of magma in tunnels underneath the peninsula, which could breach the surface and cause an eruption. The 4000 residents of the town have been evacuated as the magma has risen to less than a kilometer below the surface.^TRG^

Icelandic volcanism is pretty fascinating, with the country sitting on the mid-Atlantic ridge, the birthing line of new oceanic crustal rock running right down the Atlantic ocean for many thousands of kilometers, as well as a hotspot, an upwelling of mantle material of debated origin which also feeds otherwise-inexplicable volcanism in the middle of tectonic plates, like Yellowstone and Hawaii.

An additional factor here is the presence of glaciers. When a volcano erupts underneath a glacier, the melting water cools the lava rapidly, causing features usually seen in volcanoes that erupt under the sea like pillow basalts, but also unique features like tuyas, which are steep-sided but flat-topped volcanoes. The rapid melting of water can also cause glacial floods called jökulhlaups.

Icelandic volcanoes have had significant regional and even global impacts in the past. In 2010, the volcano Eyjafjallajökull, which was a volcano covered by an ice cap, erupted and the ash cloud spread across Europe, causing airline disruption for about a month which caused nearly $2 billion in total losses for airline companies - though this seems pretty quaint compared to the pandemic's impact on airlines in retrospect. Back in the 1780s, the Laki volcano killed a quarter of the Icelandic population due to sulphur dioxide causing massive crop failure and cattle death. This eruption's impacts spread to Europe and beyond, causing notable worldwide temperature drops and thus crop failures and may well have been a contributing factor to the outbreak of the French Revolution, which obviously heralded the death of the feudal order and the eventual primacy of capitalism in its place. That being said, any eruption at Grindavik is very probably not going to have any significant worldwide impacts - there are over a hundred volcanoes already in Iceland, and regular climate change is doing a great job at causing mayhem right now anyway. It's also still possible that there won't be an eruption at all, at least not in the short to medium term.


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https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

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[–] the_kid@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (4 children)

US public support for Israel wanes as 68 percent call for ceasefire: Poll

Israel’s war on Gaza is upsetting many Americans who think it must follow growing demands for an immediate ceasefire, according to a new poll.

The Reuters/Ipsos survey found only 32 percent of respondents said “the US should support Israel”. That is down from 41 percent from a poll conducted on October 12-13 – just days after the war broke out.

About 68 percent of respondents said they agreed with the statement, “Israel should call a ceasefire and try to negotiate.” Some 39 percent supported the idea “the US should be a neutral mediator”, compared with 27 percent a month earlier.

Only 4 percent of respondents said the United States should support Palestinians, while 15 percent said the US shouldn’t be involved at all in the war.

While the US has been a significant Israeli ally, just 31 percent of respondents said they supported sending Israel weapons.

The plunge in support follows weeks of heavy bombardment of Gaza that has killed more than 11,200 people, and could be a worrying sign for Israel.

I love living in a democracy

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Only 4 percent of respondents said the United States should support Palestinians

Most propagandised people on the planet. Really shows that the majority of Americans calling for a "ceasefire" want a return to the status quo and don't want to abolish the apartheid regime in Israel.

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

96% of Americans not caring about the suffering of brown people beyond “eh, that genocide sounds kinda bad, a cease fire sounds much nicer” sounds about right.

[–] BatsAreRats@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Yes it's 100% this lol, most of these people don't give a shit about Palestinians. They just don't like watching a genocide happen in real time

[–] SaniFlush@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Polls mostly reflect the opinions of people willing to drop whatever they're doing and answer a poll.

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What crazy to me here is that a ceasefire would basically win this for Israel. Hamas would be bound by the terms of the ceasefire and the revolution would be put on the backburner while Israel bounces back from it's losses more quickly due to wealth. Strategically, ceasefire is a winning move for Israel, but they're just too damn bloodthirsty to consider it, so they're losing a war of attrition and propaganda instead

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Hamas is under no obligation to follow a unilaterally decreed ceasefire from Israel. They will continue military operations if they so desire. That will force Israel back into Gaza and reignite the whole thing. It’s never going back to normal unless major gains are made for Palestinians, otherwise this is just a pot waiting to boil over again

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Hamas might feel pressured to agree to a ceasefire. If nothing else, offering a ceasefire that Hamas refuses would serve Israeli PR narratives about Hamas being bloodthirsty savages who don't care about Palestinian people

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's the thing, there's no "status quo" to return to, it was already untenable and unstable in its previous stasis. A massive amount of natural gas was found offshore of Gaza, and Israel's bazinga canal ideas all run directly through Gaza (more likely they will just steal Suez from Egypt or attempt to by creeping in the Sinai). That means that as long as Gaza and Hamas remain, they will be able to harass and sabotage these offshore oil rigs and pipelines and construction projects. Thus Israel can't just call white peace and go back to normal, they need Hamas and Palestinians out of Gaza - whether that be dead, driven into Egypt or accepted by bleeding heart western nations and scattered into the wind. The previous idea was just to keep Gaza under military containment and security permanently, but that proved to be unfeasible due to October 7th and Hamas' capability to breach the defenses.

[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some 39 percent supported the idea “the US should be a neutral mediator”

IT’S LITERALLY ISRAEL’S BOSS agony-shrooms

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

I love how for Americans “we become the arbiter and judge of the whole situation in the Middle East” is the moderate, reasonable and not chauvinistic option. As an American you can participate in the genocide, or rule over it like a judge. There’s no other options

[–] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

68 percent is what we call in parliamentary terms, a "supermajority." It is enough to override a presidential veto, if the legislature even pretended to represent the interest of its constituents.

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago