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Where exactly is the coercion here? The choices in order to maintain a Facebook account you either pay a fee or let them use your data to advertise to you. The other option is to completely close your Facebook account and delete all of your data on their servers. An argument can be made that they should make it easier to remove all of your data and several people that I know have made that argument. But other than that I don't see anything they are doing as being illegal, in the EU or otherwise. Sure the way they presented is a pretty scummy but what do you want? It's Facebook and it's run by greedy corporate dick heads. If you don't like it delete your Facebook profile.
I also find it hilarious that you don't think they have lawyers who specialize in European Union law that don't know exactly what the fuck they're doing. This is a multi-billion dollar company, they can afford the best goddamn lawyers.
right there. you're a parody of yourself lmao.
a facebook account cannot simultaneously hold enough value that it's worth compromising your privacy for and not hold value so that the threat of taking it away is not coercion. the enemy cannot be both strong and weak at once. the only way to resolve this dichotomy is to posit your privacy itself holds no value and is therefore a fair price to pay for something that also holds no value, but that's just absolutely ridiculous to begin with.
you also had your answers to your questions about which part should be illegal, multiple times. to then ask the same questions again because you "don't see it", playing dumb like that, is just manipulative. why are you so dead set on corporate bootlicking?
Read carefully:
You 👏 do 👏 not 👏 require 👏 a 👏 Facebook 👏 page 👏 to 👏 live.
It is the very definition of superfluous luxury service. Just delete your page and be done with it.
Read carefully:
You 👏 cannot 👏 make 👏 personal 👏 data 👏 the 👏 price 👏 of 👏 a 👏 service.
It's literally that simple. This is not about whether the product is essential or not, it never was. It's whether this business practice is legitimate or not. The GDPR clearly believes it's not and it's for a reason.
If you do not need a facebook page to live, why provide it for free at all? Just make people either pay or delete their page. Do not bribe them with free shit to manipulate them into giving up their data. That's all there is to it.
Informed consent. It's right there in the text of the law.
https://gdpr.eu/article-5-how-to-process-personal-data/
And you have a right to object to that.
https://gdpr.eu/article-21-right-to-object/
https://gdpr.eu/Recital-42-Burden-of-proof-and-requirements-for-consent/
Threatening to disable a user's means of communication as retaliation for an objection is antithetical to Article 21 of the GDPR, and goes directly against Recital 42. Removing your facebook page is a detriment. If there is a detriment to not consenting, consent is considered invalid, therefore facebook has no legal basis to process the data of anyone who clicked "use for free" on the prompt in the original post.
If your only means of communication is Facebook, then that is an absolute failure of your government and society and you have much bigger fish to fry than Facebook's shitty ad policy.
you're just hell-bent on missing the point, aren't you?
just stop. your idea that the loss of a facebook account is not a detriment will never stand up in court, nor should it.
LoL, it's never going to make it to court. 🤣
You people are hilarious.
at this point i genuinely believe that you're just trolling. some companies like sony and apple absolutely do have this level of bootlickers who constantly move goalposts and try to convince people how they are ackshually right to do their extremely anti-consumer moves. but facebook? give me a break lmao. but even for a troll it's such a stupid hill to die on
i believe we adequately explored why your idea that corporations have the right to coerce people into giving up their data is idiotic. so idk, keep trolling and insert your next goalpost below this line:
I'm not trolling but you can think what the hell you want, I don't really give a shit.
I don't see it as coercion because Facebook is not a necessary service. And I think everyone here who is tearing their hair out and screaming about how "illegal" this new policy is are being overly dramatic.
It's just as simple as that. Oh, and my personal hope is that the new policy will encourage people to delete their Facebook. I would love to see the site go up in flames like Twitter is currently doing. So you thinking I'm some kind of sycophantic fanboy of Zuckerberg and his "metaverse" is quite hilarious to me. 🤣