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TEL AVIV—Israeli forces have taken control of much of northern Gaza—at least the parts that are above ground. Beneath the strip’s devastated urban landscape, Hamas still reigns.

The war is entering a new phase, as the Israeli military takes its fight underground and into Gaza’s legendary subterranean tunnel network.

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[–] palal@lemmy.ml 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Ignore the user who posted it, but this was recently aired on BBC: https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1725581508340015530?s=20

The IDF claims that, between their first video through the MRI room and when they led the BBC through it, they found another gun and put it in the MRI room.

We can take a step back and ask why guns made of metal were anywhere near an MRI, but we can also ask where the IDF supposedly "found" the original guns.

Also of note is that the laptop shown at the end of the "uncut" al-Shifa video... Uses an Israeli power plug and displays an IDF soldier. The IDF later took the video down and re-uploaded it with that picture blurred.

[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world -3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I'm not buying anything the BBC says regarding this conflict. They have repeatedly had to apologise for flat-out lying during their reporting.

As BBC News covered initial reports that Israeli forces had entered Gaza’s main hospital, we said that “medical teams and Arab speakers” were being targeted. This was incorrect and misquoted a Reuters report. We should have said IDF forces included medical teams and Arabic speakers for this operation. We apologise for this error, which fell below our usual editorial standards. The correct version of events was broadcast minutes later and we apologised for the mistake on air later in the morning.

They also had the government warn them of their impartial reporting during an anti-semitic attack, where they claimed that the Jewish victim perpetuated the attack.

Oh, but there's even more. In 2004, the former BBC Director of News commissioned a report into the impartiality of the BBC reporting on conflicts in the Middle East, particularly Israel-Palestine. The BBC spent £330,000 in legal costs (not including staff or VAT) contesting again and again the findings of the report, themselves refusing to publically release the report's findings. Fighting in court repeatedly against activists for almost a decade to withhold the report findings is extremely suspicious.

The BBC's history of being biased or misleading shows they cannot be trusted for news in the middle-east.


We can take a step back and ask why guns made of metal were anywhere near an MRI, but we can also ask where the IDF supposedly “found” the original guns.

Because without electricity, the MRI is off? Hospitals don't tend to use MRIs during extraordinary crises due to power consumption.

Also of note is that the laptop shown at the end of the “uncut” al-Shifa video… Uses an Israeli power plug and displays an IDF soldier. The IDF later took the video down and re-uploaded it with that picture blurred.

Yes, in the video, they say that it was one of their captured soldiers. As for the power plug, I don't see what that proves? The soldiers plugged in the laptop to view its contents? Hamas had an Israeli power bank? The main issue is that there were guns inside the hospital, which violates Article 19 of the Geneva Convention, which means that the hospital loses its immunity--that's the problem worth noting here.

[–] palal@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The IDF published the first video and the BBC published the second video. You can verify the presence of an additional gun yourself.

That means that we know the IDF intentionally placed another gun behind the MRI machine and calls into question whether the other guns were placed there by the IDF as well.

The IDF is framing it as an uncut, first look inside the hospital (that is, before the IDF got a chance to mess around and manipulate evidence). That's clearly untrue, which is why the IDF took the video down and blurred the laptop.