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[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Probably since it's a platform used mostly by dudes, who'll keep using it afterwards

[-] crystal@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

But wouldn't that oppose the idea of transgender? If a trans woman is a woman, wouldn't they be more common in female dominated areas?

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Not if they were living like most men before, and stay in those communities after transitioning

[-] shea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 10 months ago

nope. i was living as a dude who liked dude stuff, now that I'm living as a woman I'm not gonna change everything i like just to conform to your idea of a woman. sometimes girls like dude stuff too

[-] crystal@feddit.de 1 points 10 months ago

Sometimes girls like dude stuff. But if trans women were the same as cis women, it'd be just as rare for trans women to like dude stuff as it is for cis women.

The only reason (that does not conflict with the idea of trans and cis women being equal) I see why that occurs is that perhaps trans women are indoctrinated to like dude stuff when they're young, and that indoctrination remains even after transitioning.

[-] yetAnotherUser@feddit.de 6 points 10 months ago

Uh isn't an easier explanation that society encourages people to get hobbies fitting their gender stereotype and discourages the opposite?

There is no dude stuff, there's what society thinks dude stuff should be and people raised as dudes are more likely to get hobbies matching these expectations.

[-] shea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago

nobody thinks trans women are "the same as" cis women. The only thing any woman is guaranteed to have in common with another woman is that they are a woman. That goes for all types of women

[-] eupraxia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I'm still the same metalhead as ever, hah. Transition doesn't change your interests, passions, and hobbies. If transfems are into some traditionally masc things as a product of being raised as boys, that'll tend to stick around after transitioning. That doesn't make them not women, but it does make them more likely to be in traditionally masc spaces than cis women.

And ultimately, I feel that's a good thing - there's really no reason women wouldn't be interested in metal outside of cultural norms, and if more trans women are in those spaces I hope it makes cis women more comfortable to explore those interests too.

[-] Sethayy@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

I mean like Lemmy doesn't actually make you pass a gender test to login or anything, so old habits wont change

[-] Rolder@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

Nah some searching tells me that even in society as a whole, trans women are 2-4 times more common then the opposite.

[-] WhiteHawk@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Maybe being a man just sucks, idk

[-] Rolder@reddthat.com 1 points 10 months ago

I was kind of thinking the same. A woman with masculine traits is generally more accepted then a man with feminine traits. In the west anyway.

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