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The Israel Defense Forces releases surveillance camera footage from Shifa Hospital showing Hamas terrorists bringing a Nepali and Thai citizen who were abducted from Israel on October 7 to the medical center.

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[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Words and their meanings change over time. Composition of groups change over time as well. I have no problem with Israelis having a place in the Middle East. What I have a problem with is the far right Israeli government committing genocide. You don't have a problem with that and I understand that. But you saying that you choose to identify with the old definition. Doesn't mean much. The Nazis tried to claim they were socialist. The Chinese in the North Koreans tried to claim that they're democratic. No one believes that. Everyone understands what they are and that they're just saying that. Because what you say doesn't dictate who you are. What you do, dictates who you are. And you are defending one of the most bloodthirsty genocidal groups involved in this conflict. And I will say again fuck hamas. They are murderous deceptive and outright horrible people. But the Israeli government bears a lot of blame for bringing them to this point. Again, that does not justify Hamas or defend Hamas. It just says fuck the right wing likud government of Israel harder. For manipulating people to bring about this genocide.

And yeah I get that you don't want to continue this conversation. You have no response to any of this. Your only goal is to defend Israel. And it doesn't matter to you how bad you look because of it. You have nothing to say to change that fact. So why continue to try right?

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